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The Grimlife
End Line Manufacturing
#1 - 2016-02-14 18:22:47 UTC  |  Edited by: The Grimlife
Can any one please tell what the Doomheim corporation is please.

I think it is the character bin for deleted toons but im not 100%
Archibald Thistlewaite III
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Miners
#2 - 2016-02-14 18:26:39 UTC
Its the place all bio-massed capsuleers go to. (you bio-mass when you delete the character)

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The Grimlife
End Line Manufacturing
#3 - 2016-02-14 18:30:15 UTC
Thanks
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2016-02-14 21:57:02 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Only way to find out, biomass your character P.

I did put in my application a while back, not have been accepted in yet, they think I'm a spy.




But, yeah, you are right. Doomheim is where all biomassed (deleted) characters go.

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Memphis Baas
#5 - 2016-02-14 23:13:04 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Only way to find out, biomass your character P.


Or just ask on this forum.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-02-14 23:14:52 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
Only way to find out, biomass your character P.


Or just ask on this forum.


I was being sarcastic.

Though, he could have just made a throw away alt to check, doing it with your main is stupid.


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Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2016-02-15 00:19:38 UTC
They scream when you biomass them.

I don't know this from biomassing an alt for being too ugly. Roll

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Barnabus Jones III
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-02-15 03:37:41 UTC
Cara Forelli wrote:
They scream when you biomass them.

I don't know this from biomassing an alt for being too ugly. Roll

You animal!
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2016-02-15 05:22:08 UTC
There are rumours they are all being set free shortly in a sort of EVE style zombie apocalypse.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#10 - 2016-02-16 03:40:16 UTC
Archibald Thistlewaite III wrote:
Its the place all bio-massed capsuleers go to. (you bio-mass when you delete the character)

You never really leave EVE. You just go AFK.
Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#11 - 2016-02-16 08:12:57 UTC
Sometimes they come back.

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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2016-02-16 12:13:03 UTC
In the 'Author" column on the forum list you can see the OP's name and if it is in white instead of yellow that seems to indicate that the OP has biomassed.

I've noticed some players that come here into the NC Q&A and make a post indicating that they are struggling with the game and then see them having biomassed. Often it seems to be the kind of player that tries to go it alone and does not reach out to anyone in game and uses the NC Q&A as a last effort before leaving.

What I do not understand is why someone would feel the need to delete a character if they never planed on playing the game again. I mean you could just close the client and walk away. The biomassing to me indicates a certain level of frustration.

What I take from all of this is that I think that I need to really focus on pushing the make friends in game thing on this forum more than I already do. I mean if they had in game friends they most likely would not be coming here for answers. So my plan for now if to focus more on telling new players that come here to reach out to players in game before I even try to answer their question, pretty much as a rule.

I am posting this here as it seem the appropriate thread and just looking to hear if anyone else has any input to add to this comment.

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Pandora Carrollon
Provi Rapid Response
#13 - 2016-02-16 16:05:14 UTC
ergherhdfgh wrote:
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I've noticed some players that come here into the NC Q&A and make a post indicating that they are struggling with the game and then see them having biomassed. Often it seems to be the kind of player that tries to go it alone and does not reach out to anyone in game and uses the NC Q&A as a last effort before leaving.

What I do not understand is why someone would feel the need to delete a character if they never planed on playing the game again. I mean you could just close the client and walk away. The biomassing to me indicates a certain level of frustration.
...


I would see that as quite human actually.

In reading these forums I have come to realize just how much attachment people have to the game. I think the frustration you are referring to is people trying to learn a super complex game, putting all kinds of time and energy into it and they can't make it work for them.

Just an early observation here, EVE appears to be fairly simple on the surface, but almost every time I assume how something works in EVE I'm later shown that it's wrong or different in mechanism than what I'd thought. For a lot of people, that would turn them off and/or frustrate them. I, personally, am fascinated by the mechanics so it interests me more the more 'wrong' I am; admittedly, I'm not most people but I do understand their frustration and need to leave the game.

If CCP and/or the Sheppard players (those that want to help newbies) want to cut down on people trying and leaving, the 'rookie chat' needs to stop being a chat and be an assignment. I mean you're greeted by your capsule AI but to point out a problem, I created an ALT just yesterday and it dropped me and my squeaky new ALT's rookie ship right into the middle of some NPC pirates (30km away!). Had I been a new player, I would've been flummoxed. If I'd been immediately assigned to a player that volunteered to be a Sheppard and help me through the start, at least I'd have had a chance against them as a newbie. As it was I just warped away because I had no interest in them.

So creating some kind of guidance team to help very new players along would be great. You could get them educated in the basics, guided to a player corp that would help them, maybe make a friend or two along the way. If the Sheppard's guide for 12 hours a month, give them a Plex and then the rest of their gameplay is taken care of. It's a way to keep more players in the game and help some good hearted souls stay solvent in the game.

Just a thought, don't know how on target it is.

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2016-02-16 23:28:20 UTC
ergherhdfgh wrote:


What I do not understand is why someone would feel the need to delete a character if they never planed on playing the game again. I mean you could just close the client and walk away.



Perhaps because you may feel the game is detrimental to you and the temptation to come back might be too much.

A few years ago a (much younger) online friend of mine was messing up her final year of high school with the amount of time she spent in a particular game (she was the top ranked player on our 40,000 person server and ran the servers most successful guild) . She tried to "play less" but kept coming back. Even if she gave her accounts away she might be tempted to ask for them back. So she deleted them.

I can see people doing the same thing if the feel they are wasting hours banging their had on the wall in a game they are struggling with. Bio-massing the character removes all temptation to come back.
Andrew Space
Doomheim
#15 - 2016-02-16 23:50:13 UTC
It's where we keep our Trump supporters.
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#16 - 2016-02-18 14:52:47 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
ergherhdfgh wrote:


What I do not understand is why someone would feel the need to delete a character if they never planed on playing the game again. I mean you could just close the client and walk away.



Perhaps because you may feel the game is detrimental to you and the temptation to come back might be too much.

A few years ago a (much younger) online friend of mine was messing up her final year of high school with the amount of time she spent in a particular game (she was the top ranked player on our 40,000 person server and ran the servers most successful guild) . She tried to "play less" but kept coming back. Even if she gave her accounts away she might be tempted to ask for them back. So she deleted them.

I can see people doing the same thing if the feel they are wasting hours banging their had on the wall in a game they are struggling with. Bio-massing the character removes all temptation to come back.




That doesn´t explain biomassing a week or even days old char by a new player, though.

I believe it rather shows the player still has some sort of emotional tie; this is his final "act of defiance" against a game he is potentially interested in but simply overwhelmed.... otherwise he would not care about this and just delete the client.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2016-02-18 18:14:38 UTC
Pandora Carrollon wrote:
ergherhdfgh wrote:
...
I've noticed some players that come here into the NC Q&A and make a post indicating that they are struggling with the game and then see them having biomassed. Often it seems to be the kind of player that tries to go it alone and does not reach out to anyone in game and uses the NC Q&A as a last effort before leaving.

What I do not understand is why someone would feel the need to delete a character if they never planed on playing the game again. I mean you could just close the client and walk away. The biomassing to me indicates a certain level of frustration.
...


I would see that as quite human actually.

In reading these forums I have come to realize just how much attachment people have to the game. I think the frustration you are referring to is people trying to learn a super complex game, putting all kinds of time and energy into it and they can't make it work for them.

Just an early observation here, EVE appears to be fairly simple on the surface, but almost every time I assume how something works in EVE I'm later shown that it's wrong or different in mechanism than what I'd thought. For a lot of people, that would turn them off and/or frustrate them. I, personally, am fascinated by the mechanics so it interests me more the more 'wrong' I am; admittedly, I'm not most people but I do understand their frustration and need to leave the game.

If CCP and/or the Sheppard players (those that want to help newbies) want to cut down on people trying and leaving, the 'rookie chat' needs to stop being a chat and be an assignment. I mean you're greeted by your capsule AI but to point out a problem, I created an ALT just yesterday and it dropped me and my squeaky new ALT's rookie ship right into the middle of some NPC pirates (30km away!). Had I been a new player, I would've been flummoxed. If I'd been immediately assigned to a player that volunteered to be a Sheppard and help me through the start, at least I'd have had a chance against them as a newbie. As it was I just warped away because I had no interest in them.

So creating some kind of guidance team to help very new players along would be great. You could get them educated in the basics, guided to a player corp that would help them, maybe make a friend or two along the way. If the Sheppard's guide for 12 hours a month, give them a Plex and then the rest of their gameplay is taken care of. It's a way to keep more players in the game and help some good hearted souls stay solvent in the game.

Just a thought, don't know how on target it is.



Like the idea.

Wont happen.





But they already have such a thing: ISD STAR.



I do agree, CCP and ISD (or something else community based) should be more pro active towards new players.


In my 5.5 years and 10+ alts, only once I received a conversation from a GM.

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Ginnie
Doomheim
#18 - 2016-02-18 19:57:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Ginnie
All good things...end in Doomheim

Well some of the not so good things end up there too!

It sounds plausible enough tonight, but wait until tomorrow. Wait for the common sense of the morning.
Ardal Huertal
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2016-02-21 21:26:09 UTC
As soon as I saw the name. It reminded me of Goonheim back from AoC. The goons were vicious with they're oars, broken bottles and dead opponents appendages for weapons as they swarmed the newbie zones in massive numbers. Oh the humanity.. I hear they are in this game now. We eventually drove them out of Hyboria, we will drive them out of New Eden! Unless we are outnumbered... then we won't be doing that and I'll just go hide in station.