EVE New Citizens Q&A

I have my overview set so that criminals (players with standing below -5) are supposed to have a flashing red skull icon.

However, if criminal does not have a suspect flag as well, he only appears as a white skull on a red background. Although his entire line on the overview is highlighted red. It is not flashing. An example is shown in the overview below:

Overview with non-flashy criminal

The player Land 780 is a criminal, but he does not have a solid red skull icon, and it is not flashing.

If he gets a suspect flag, only then does he become a flashing red skull.

What is the reason for this behavior?

Criminal has a different meaning in EVE - someone who just committed a criminal act. IE shooting someone illegally in highsec or podding someone illegally in lowsec. A player can be less than -5.0 and not have a "criminal" tag.

In your overview settings go to the appearance -> colortag tab. The order from top to bottom is the priority. You will see several types of "baddies" here - "pilot is supsect" and "pilot is criminal" refer to people who have committed suspect or criminal acts within the last 15 minutes. "Pilot has secuirty status below - 5" is a different group - you are still allowed to shoot them for having low sec status but they will be sorted differently by your overview.

You just need to order them from top to bottom in the priority you desire. For example, the default will give a -10.0 pilot a solid red tag. Since it is below "criminal" in the list, if the pilot then shoots someone illegally and gains a criminal tag, the criminal state will take precedence and they will get a flashy skull.

You'll notice the "background" tab - you can actually sort your color tags (icons) and the background of the pilot on the overview separately. (for instance, you can move your "fleet" color tag to the bottom to see when pilots in your fleet go suspect while still having them purple background, or something similar).

EDIT: I think your particular problem is just confusing "criminal" with "less than -5.0". Also you are calling those ships criminal when really they've only committed "suspect" acts (yellow flashing skull) unless you've messed with your colors. (You may want to check out the crimewatch mechanics if you don't understand the difference)

EDIT 2: This very old guide I wrote has some pictures. UI is a bit outdated but it will give you the general idea.

I'm not sure why I even bothered. Someone slap me.

i am a GalMil pilot. i protect the federation and friends of democracy. i have -8.1 standing because of this. does this mean i'm a criminal, hmm, mr. droidster?!

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I ask a simple question about the overview and you are turning into this huge drama over what? The definition of a criminal?

CONCORD attacks -5 players on sight. CONCORD considers -5 players "criminals". I don't really see the point of splitting hairs about it.

because you are dumb. people already answered your question correctly (see Cara's reply). people already told you that your definitions are wrong and explained to you what's correct but you still don't accept it. so why the hell did you ask in the first place if you won't accept answers?

CONCORD does NOT, i repeat, does NOT attack players with standings below -5.0 on sight, ok? Having standings below -5.0 alone is not being criminal, infact, it's called being awesome. only the faction police attacks players with standings below -5.0 on sight.

CONCORD attacks players (in hisec while gate/station guns in lowsec) if you do a criminal act (like shooting illegal targets) regardless of your (shooter's) standings.

Also, for the sake of any newbies who may be trying to learn about the overview from this, the ORDER in which the various conditions are listed in your overview gives them a priority, and you may be covering a high priority color under a less important color / condition. Make sure that the conditions that can shoot you (war enemies, faction enemies, criminal status, etc.) are at the top, and the conditions that don't matter as much (player has a bounty) are towards the bottom.

EDIT: Doh, Iria covered it a few posts up, sorry, didn't notice. Well, it bears repeating.

No it doesn't


There is a BIG difference between someone who is a criminal + someone who is < -5.0 sec status.

Learn the freaking difference of read Cara's post.


If you want to be an ignorant SoaB, then don't come here asking for help. If you know it all so well, why isn't it working? And why do you need our help to fix something you already know how it works?

Nope, Concord attacks players with a criminal flag; the only exception is in the very few solar systems where Concord are also the faction police. Once again a criminal flag and a low sec status are not the same thing

We're not splitting hairs, we're telling you that your assumptions about this subject, and pretty much everything else that you've posted about, are wrong.