Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I say, get rid of ship maintenance bays on all Capital warships and create a Tech II variant of the Bowhead to fulfill this role.

Therefore we can still limit power projection of Capital warships but still allow for an enhanced rigged ship transport system that we can balance with Jump Freighters.

We can detach the combat ship jump balancing from the logistical balancing, even though there might not be too much difference.

Note: This could or could not impact Supercapital warships.

Or you could just use jumpfreighters and put rigs back in at the end location. This is a very muddled wouldn't it be nice thread.
Carriers in truth do not carry all that much, all ships have to be assembled after all. Then there is that pesky name: Carriers. They carry ships. Fighters are not ships, they are drones.

Power projection refers to the ability of capital ships to move reeealy far reeealy fast, which is clearly no longer the case. Subcaps are really just commodities, and a jf + fitting tool takes the carrier out of your equation. Rigs, even t2 rigs are cheap, so that's no reason not do it.

What I really see here is," I want more damage resistant highsec bling transportation." Which is what the bowhead is for.

The ability to move fitted sub-capital warships should be removed from capital-warships including capital-logistics.
The ability to jump fitted sub-capital warships should be given to another jump capable industrial.

We should not be able to move sub-capital warships through Dreads, Carriers, FAX, and what ever else comes up down the road.

Therefore, jump range of actual warships can be balanced separately from the ships that can transport them.

-Requiring a Titan and a Bowhead after such a change would dramatically nerf the smaller Corps who can't afford to maintain and protect Supercaptial warships.
-Suggesting using a JF disregards the loss of ship insurance.

And how much will the ability to project power increase when every single capital owner can bring his personal fleet with him to during a deployment without requiring significant industrial support.

Every single Dread, Carrier and Fax pilot could easily bring a half dozen replacement subcaps and drop them off at a nearby station.

I'm saying they shouldn't be able to do that. It should require industrial ship support.

And if you are going to remove that ability from existing jump capable capitals, it should be given to jump capable industrials in order to preserve an existing game mechanic.

SMA for thanatos, 1,000,000m3
Rattlesnake 480,000m3
Cruiser of choice: 115,000m3
battlecruiser of choice 216,000m3

A single carrier could bring in a few ships for a doctrine or two, depending or the ship class preferred, but there are not as many cap pilots as you think, and certainly not enough to supply the subcap force that will be coming in with the cap fleet.

Now add in that for most null region to region movements you have to take gates, then multiple jumps just to move across a single region and one hour per 5ly to minimize fatigue for emergency jumps... hardly EASY to bring in a max of 8 cruisers compared to an already existing industrial: The JF that has a huge range and can carry many, many more ships, with alternate fittings to, yes, drop off at a station.

So, no need for your bowhead, idea exists in game.

More stuff to consider: CCP obviously wants more things dying. They also want more things looted. Having immediate reshipping capabilites from any cap for allies will let people die more often, without having to run to station or nearer staging point to reship, saving the servers from making calls by docking/undocking or jumping through gates.

As well, if a fully packed cap ship shoud die, there is a lot more loot to be taken from a wreck that is going to take more time to kill(thanks to more wreck HP) to deny that loot to the enemy/ally.

Oh, I bet it most likely would.

All ships should have a TII variant regardless of what they are.

Perhaps a way to 'fix' this would be to change how SMA's are treated.
Stop treating them by volume, and instead teat them by number of berths with a max size limit per berth or something.
We already have space magic containers, so obviously we have some kind of space warping tech for storage so don't need to worry about 'real' size. Imagine if a carrier could carry 10 ships of up to BS size, and another 20 ships of up to cruiser size.
No more mucking about with numbers to calculate it all, and BS fleets become more viable and supportable with caps.

Then treat all the others in similar ways.

It would be better to rewamp the Bowhead with a system with bed or ship's cradle (don't have the right word for that).
The m3 size is useless for this kind of ship.

For example basically you could carry 4 BS, then 1 BS equal X BC, 1 BC equal X C, ...etc

That give you the number of each category of ship that could be carried per bed. And the mix that you could do.


Then for the T2 Bowhead, it should have jump capability and a stationnary type of bastion module during deployment that give a good protection. It would be ideal and will open a lot of tactical possibility.

So you could move ships around for business as usual or bring a huge number of hull with pilots for a tactical drop or reinforcement. A swarm could overwelmed a small group of bigger ship and change a battle.

T2 Titans. Specialized in doomsday systems. Cannot fit turret/launcher. Can fit and use multiple in succession or single volley.

Partial T2 resist only because :balance:.