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Least used T1 Cruiser/Battleship
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#21 - 2012-01-10 10:18:53 UTC
* "per se"

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Takeshi Yamato
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2012-01-10 10:55:25 UTC
I've never seen an Augoror in space.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-01-10 11:28:23 UTC
Kale Eledar wrote:
I would say the Hyperion for battleships, simply because many believe it is vastly inferior to cheaper ships at the same roles and it having odd bonuses and a high cost.

I, however, love the ship. There are a few things it is damn good at.


8 T2 miners +T2 upgrades and links has better yeld than retriever for sure and probably almost that much than covetor. It's just several dozen millions more expensive.
Just like being "the ultimate" blaster platform and under perform vs Megathron (tank/dps) and the price tag difference of 100%
I love it too but it's horribly expensive for his crap performances, let's hope they make it something interesting with the supposed hybrids rebalance and ships using them -most prob 2013 we'll assist to blasters getting +50% range, not because it's a real buff, just because projectiles would get 100% falloff just before that.
Misina Arlath
Darkfall Helix
#24 - 2012-01-10 12:25:31 UTC
Augoror is definately a top candidate for least used / most useless. Honestly, who needs cap transfers and fly a tier 1 cruiser? Same goes for the Scythe and tracking links.

The Osprey at least has Shield Transporting which is, if not the most useful, then definately not the least useful bonus a cruiser could have. Same goes for the Exequror and RR.

The weird part about the Augoror is that they didn't give Augoror the mining bonus, but rather the Arbitrator. Which seems an odd choice considering Amarr aren't really that heavily into drones. At least nothing is aimed at drones until later when you need them for the bigger ships like BC's and BS's, or you for some reason go for the EW frigate.

For my part though I love the Arbitrator and I quite often used it as a baitcar when I got pissed at smalltime pirate-wannabe's in highsec. It's quite efficient at killing frigates with dual medium neuts, double web, scrambler and a full compartment of T2 light and medium drones.

Omen is a ship I liked when I was new. It was quite nice for missions when you could kite the rats and gun them down with beam lasers meaning you didn't really need to tank much. Also it looked alot more stylish and aggressive than the flatfaced Maller.

As for battleships I think the Rohk is up there because it's costly, but first and foremost because most Caldari go for Missiles, thus most are not really trained on the gunnery skills and rather stick to what they know best. Thus the Raven comes out ahead as a clear winner (also a nice bonus that missiles = adjusting which resistance you are shooting at whenever you want).

For the same reason the Ferox is a rarely used BC as well. Especially when measured up against the Drake which have all the benefits a Raven does (and it's a logical step to take towards getting a Raven for mission running).

Of course, Prophecy is also up there. Nice ship design (though some might say pregnant pigeon), but it's really lacking with the bonuses. Also, considering how efficient the Harbinger is, why would you want the Prophecy anyways?

I'm not going to start listing frigates too, other than to say the Inquisitor is one of the frigates I have had the most fun flying. Granted, I have good missile and support skills at this point, but it's just so fun to roam around with it and see how many who will attack you thinking you are a noob in a ship that by and large is renowned for being useless since no Amarr trains missiles (sort of like Arbitrator has been viewed as a pointless Amarr ship, even though it's a very nice T1 cruiser when you got skills for it). An inquis permarunning MWD and doing 3k-3.5m/s at 23km while keeping a point at you gets really, really annoying. Especially with the constant missile spam. It's just too funny.

Then again, I always loved to fly the ships everyone hates or deems useless just to prove that they can be useful. Maybe i'll start training towards that Ferox next :)
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#25 - 2012-01-10 13:45:42 UTC  |  Edited by: X Gallentius
What?!! The Celestis is the greatest ship in Eve! The best Gallente pilot of all time Kessiaan (some may say this title is debatable, but they'd be wrong) came up with a triple sensor boosting fit that was great at gate camping and from there it was clear to me that the Celestis is pure win. Works great with triple anything like remote sensor boosters, webs, etc...

All hail the mighty Celestis!

The Exeqeror Navy Issue is a beastly dps machine that goes 2k+ m/s.

I've seen one Navy Scythe, and couple Navy ospreys.

Hardly ever see the Keres, nor Amarr frigs outside the Punisher and the ocasional Executioner. If not for one of my corp mates flying the Bellicose I don't think I'd ever see one either. Augoror is rare too.
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#26 - 2012-01-10 14:12:44 UTC
Not sure I agree about the hyperion. You see quite a few of them in small gang roams, which is where they work best, and quite a few people prefer them over the megathron for pve. (myself included)

The rokh is relatively popular as a sniper in incursion fleets, if nothing else.

The typhoon, however....you don't see many in pve at all, and they have very niche roles in pvp. I'd say that's probably the least flown.

thhief ghabmoef
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2012-01-10 14:19:13 UTC
Rel'k Bloodlor wrote:
There has to be a way to look it up, tho I don't know how.
Do Augoror's get used like Osprey? as a cheap throw away ship? I mean couldn't a corp get and fit a few and use them to quik charge caps? for hella cheep?


I put my cash on the Bellicose. what the hell dose it even do? I can't even tell ya with out looking, at least the others named so far popped up in my head as doing some thing kinda usfull.

Bellicose actually can be used as a low-to-moderate SP medium-heavy tackler.
Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#28 - 2012-01-10 14:50:21 UTC
Really? Well you learn some thing new every day.

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 
Skurja Volpar
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#29 - 2012-01-10 18:03:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Skurja Volpar
I think the only Bellicose I ever saw in game was the one I used for cheap expendable lowsec exploration when I started out (although for all its flaws and unused bonuses it does pve better than the stabber), target painter bonus is pretty much doomed from the offset.

All tier1 cruisers are pretty unrepresented too from what I've seen although mining scythes are not unheard of. I reckon giving them scaled down versions of their tech2 counterpart's bonus (eg able to run a useful ammount of mildly bonused medium reps) would help this and give players with less sp more opportunity to get into logis and pvp.

Ferox or prophecey would be the BC hulls I've seen the least of, but compared to the above they're almost a common sight.

Battleships are pretty balanced all round imho compared to other classes at least and I can't think of one that's noticably unused, an example of where the tier system can work as intended (a few extra slots in low tier bcs/frigs/cruisers and I reckon we might be swimming in balanced and diverse soup Bear)
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#30 - 2012-01-10 18:20:09 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
What?!! The Celestis is the greatest ship in Eve! The best Gallente pilot of all time Kessiaan (some may say this title is debatable, but they'd be wrong) came up with a triple sensor boosting fit that was great at gate camping and from there it was clear to me that the Celestis is pure win. Works great with triple anything like remote sensor boosters, webs, etc...

All hail the mighty Celestis!

The Exeqeror Navy Issue is a beastly dps machine that goes 2k+ m/s.

I've seen one Navy Scythe, and couple Navy ospreys.

Hardly ever see the Keres, nor Amarr frigs outside the Punisher and the ocasional Executioner. If not for one of my corp mates flying the Bellicose I don't think I'd ever see one either. Augoror is rare too.


I fought a dual prop Celestis in my Talos last night... it worked reasonbly well for him I think.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Sicex
#31 - 2012-01-11 02:28:14 UTC
Breachers? Are those used?... I never see em
Kale Eledar
Venerated Industries
#32 - 2012-01-11 06:10:51 UTC
Tanya Powers wrote:
Kale Eledar wrote:
I would say the Hyperion for battleships, simply because many believe it is vastly inferior to cheaper ships at the same roles and it having odd bonuses and a high cost.

I, however, love the ship. There are a few things it is damn good at.


8 T2 miners +T2 upgrades and links has better yeld than retriever for sure and probably almost that much than covetor. It's just several dozen millions more expensive.
Just like being "the ultimate" blaster platform and under perform vs Megathron (tank/dps) and the price tag difference of 100%
I love it too but it's horribly expensive for his crap performances, let's hope they make it something interesting with the supposed hybrids rebalance and ships using them -most prob 2013 we'll assist to blasters getting +50% range, not because it's a real buff, just because projectiles would get 100% falloff just before that.


I don't know. The ship needs its bonuses changed more than anything. While a dual rep Hyp can be a beast, its emphasis on blasters too often means its armor repairing bonus goes unused.
I'll add my vote to the Auguror as well.
I've seen one Exequror Navy Issue ever. I do like the Exequror; it was easy to make a cheapo logistics ship.

First come smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire.
Biced
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2012-01-11 09:05:37 UTC
I have never seen an exquror/osprey navy or a scythe fleet.
Pascal Almaric
The Solipsist Nation
#34 - 2012-01-11 21:54:08 UTC
I've seen a few Rokhs, several of them smarbomb fit. I know people who kill Dramiels in bait Celestises. I saw this fight decided by an Exequror. There are people who kill can flippers in Scythes -- it's considered de rigeur to leave the mining laser running. Can't remember seeing an Auguror.
Robur Carolinum
Machina Electrica
#35 - 2012-01-12 01:16:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Robur Carolinum
Quote:
The Scythe Fleet Issue is a faction cruiser available from the Minmatar faction. In the 2010 QEN, it was revealed that the Scythe Fleet Issue was the least piloted ship in EVE, remarkably even less often then Titan-class ships.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Scythe_Fleet_Issue

As for non-faction, the Bellicose isn't much used, and for good reason. You can probably make a frig baiting ship out of it, but it's TP bonus is poor and it struggles with fitting.
ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
#36 - 2012-01-12 16:57:28 UTC
per race and class i would say

T1 Frig : Crucifier,Condor,Maulus,Breacher
T1 Cruiser: Augoror,Moa,Celestis,Bellicouse
T1 Battleship: Hyperion ( i see all the other BS's on a reguler basis but almost never a hype)
Antodias
Blue Canary
Watch This
#37 - 2012-01-12 17:11:38 UTC
Yeah I wish they'd change the T1 cruisers, they're pretty pointless aside from a ship a newbie will spend about 2 hours in before he realises it's awful. Most of them are hella ugly too, apart from the Exequror which is oddly endearing.

Misina Arlath wrote:

Then again, I always loved to fly the ships everyone hates or deems useless just to prove that they can be useful. Maybe i'll start training towards that Ferox next :)



All the cool kids fly Ferox's these days, it's pretty much the go-to ship for solo pvpers/small gang who want to guarantee fights.
TuxedoMask
Void Covenant
The Initiative.
#38 - 2012-01-12 20:35:57 UTC
i've used to use an Augoror when i first started EvE out of spite to my friend who used to FC our small gang roams (new player and poor). It would infuriate him.

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Amarr: Augoror

Caldari: Osprey

Gallente: Celestis

Minmatar: Scythe

Battleship its hands down the Hyperion. I've never seen one or heard of someone flying one
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#39 - 2012-01-12 21:47:50 UTC
Auguror:

I've never, in 3 years, seen one in space.

Exquerors can make good mining-bait to catch overconfident can-flippers (just ask me how I knowOops), Scythes get an at least theoretically-useful mining-bonus, and the Belli can swat frigates out of the sky quite nicely if fit with dual 180s, AMLs, and a target-painter + web.

But the Auguror...Why does this ship even still exist? It's a complete waste of database space at this point Roll

Ni.
Buzzmong
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-01-12 22:28:47 UTC
Lyrrashae wrote:
But the Auguror...Why does this ship even still exist? It's a complete waste of database space at this point Roll


To be turned into Guardians surely?
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