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CCP for god's sake put people into Features and Ideas Discussion. The Final Suggestion!
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Mentorm
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-01-11 05:06:28 UTC
Because that forum is largely ignored by players and Devs alike. All suggestions and ideas fill up GD, then devs respond here and make it worse by encouraging the abandonment of F&I.

Fix the problem by having devs frequent the F&I forum so that people actually post there and start discussing there. Or tell us to use the CSM (snort) or tell us to shut up and do your own thing (cos that worked out well before).

God knows what will fill GD after that tho....

Let this be the final suggestion.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#2 - 2012-01-11 05:09:45 UTC
couldn't you at least wait for the last one to fall off the first page?
Darth A30NZ
Deep Axion
Honorable Third Party
#3 - 2012-01-11 05:31:30 UTC
There shouldn't be more then one board. Just one big GD that goes on forever kinda like when you scroll down on Facebook. It just keeps going forever.

Problem Solved.

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Conrad Makbure
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-01-11 05:47:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Conrad Makbure
Plain and simple, the mod(s) need to be more aggressive in moving threads that are more on topic with F&I over to that folder. That's what really needs to happen.
Jimi Crackcorn
Directed Evolution Corp
#5 - 2012-01-11 05:56:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Jimi Crackcorn
Or, just think about this, delete F&I and keep it here where everyone likes and wants it. Problem solved. Most people are in general, that's why it gets discussed here. You know, because there are actually enough people to discuss it. There aren't enough people in F&I to make it worth the effort.

And no, actively moving threads to F&I won't help it get more popular. It will just move potentially good ideas to a dead section of the forums, never to be seen again.

If you already know this is where people go for ideas(even CCP themselves) why are you bitching about it? Just post them here and get over it.
DIsposible Hero
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-01-11 06:33:47 UTC
Jimi Crackcorn wrote:
Or, just think about this, delete F&I and keep it here where everyone likes and wants it. Problem solved. Most people are in general, that's why it gets discussed here. You know, because there are actually enough people to discuss it. There aren't enough people in F&I to make it worth the effort.

And no, actively moving threads to F&I won't help it get more popular. It will just move potentially good ideas to a dead section of the forums, never to be seen again.

If you already know this is where people go for ideas(even CCP themselves) why are you bitching about it? Just post them here and get over it.


Agreed. Its time to decapitate the zombie forum that is F&I.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#7 - 2012-01-11 06:36:58 UTC
Maybe if people bothered to research their ideas before posting a load of worthless crap that has mostly already been discussed anyway then there would be less of an issue.

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#8 - 2012-01-11 07:14:20 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
Maybe if people bothered to research their ideas before posting a load of worthless crap that has mostly already been discussed anyway then there would be less of an issue.


^^ THIS.

The problem is less has less to do with the F&I forum and more to do with the people posting ideas. If people TOOK THE TIME to do a google search of "their idea," made an argument why it should be (and not, "why isn't this implemented?" or "this mechanic is stupid" or "[insert stats of a stupidly OP ship here]") , and didn't take criticism so personally (and claim that anyone who doesn't support their idea is a "Troll") then you'd see more discussion all around.

It goes both ways. And people who don't take the time to do research on their idea before posting don't deserve "good responses." Sorry.

How did you Veterans start?
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#9 - 2012-01-11 07:18:29 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Lady Spank wrote:
Maybe if people bothered to research their ideas before posting a load of worthless crap that has mostly already been discussed anyway then there would be less of an issue.


^^ THIS.

The problem is less has less to do with the F&I forum and more to do with the people posting ideas. If people TOOK THE TIME to do a google search of "their idea," made an argument why it should be (and not, "why isn't this implemented?" or "this mechanic is stupid" or "[insert stats of a stupidly OP ship here]") , and didn't take criticism so personally (and claim that anyone who doesn't support their idea is a "Troll") then you'd see more discussion all around.

It goes both ways. And people who don't take the time to do research on their idea before posting don't deserve "good responses." Sorry.

I have always favored sticky threads full of compiled ideas(with the reason they are bad or not there, as well as a link to the thread where the idea is being discussed). Too bad mods tend to dislike compendiums of all the best targets to troll.

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Valei Khurelem
#10 - 2012-01-11 07:22:22 UTC
Shouldn't this be in features and ideas since that's what it is?

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Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-01-11 07:32:27 UTC
suggestions in general will be fine.. but i think the terrible ones or obvious trolls should be moved to F&I.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#12 - 2012-01-11 07:52:22 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
suggestions in general will be fine.. but i think the terrible ones or obvious trolls should be moved to F&I.

This is usually what happens but CCP miss seem to be on holiday at the moment so we are missing out on their usual filtering of junk.

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Cyzlaki
SEAGULL ENJOYMENT AUTHORITY
S0ns Of Anarchy
#13 - 2012-01-11 08:03:54 UTC
CCP should just delete them
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#14 - 2012-01-11 08:21:38 UTC
Cyzlaki wrote:
CCP should just delete them

But then who would we mock?

We might be forced to mock people actually smart enough to defend themselves effectively, and what would we do then? Shocked

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#15 - 2012-01-11 08:56:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
Where are the CCLs?

I am taking a short vacation form the FnI.
Ill be back to tear everything up if thats what you are asking for.

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Ai Shun
#16 - 2012-01-11 09:02:01 UTC
Conrad Makbure wrote:
Plain and simple, the mod(s) need to be more aggressive in moving threads that are more on topic with F&I over to that folder. That's what really needs to happen.


Add a 1b ISK fine for posting a F&I suggestion in GD?
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#17 - 2012-01-11 09:08:55 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Cyzlaki wrote:
CCP should just delete them

But then who would we mock?

We might be forced to mock people actually smart enough to defend themselves effectively, and what would we do then? Shocked


Lol I must confess... this is part of the reason why I lurk around the F&I forum.

How did you Veterans start?