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Burner Fits: Cheap Cookie Cutter
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#1 - 2016-02-11 11:32:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
I thought I would start a separate thread for "Cookie Cutter" Burner fits that are cheap, dispense with overheating and require a minimum of micromanagement, piloting and replacement of expendables (drones, cap boosters and module repairs). ISK cost values are derived from pyfa, so expect a bit (~) of variance. Credit where due.
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Burner Cruor » Jaguar
Hull: 21.7m ISK, Fittings: 39.1m ISK; 60.8m ISK total

3x 200mm AutoCannon II
Small Ghoul Compact Energy Nosferatu
10000x Republic Fleet Fusion S

Upgraded EM Ward Amplifier I*
Gistum C-Type Thermal Dissipation Amplifier*
Republic Fleet Medium Shield Extender
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I*

Gyrostabilizer II
2x Shield Power Relay II
Power Diagnostic System

2x Small Core Defense Field Purger II

Utilization: Keep at range >10km, lock, activate all offensive modules.

Pros: Minimal micromanagement, no cap booster costs; impossible to screw-up.
Cons: Needs vampire to avoid web being capped out; takes a lot longer to kill Burner (~10min ETA).

Credit: heidou (*modifications Arthur)
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Burner Succubus » Daredevil
Hull: 61.3m ISK, Fittings: 82.2m ISK; 144m ISK total

2x Light Ion Blaster II
5000x Void S

1MN T-S8 Compact Afterburner*
Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier*
Small Capacitor Battery II*

2x Corelum C-Type Energized EM Membrane*
Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer*
Capacitor Power Relay II*

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Nanobot Accelerator I

Utilization: Keep at range 1km and activate AB and armor rep; immediately lock and web. Activate guns when under 3km.

Pros: Minimal micromanagement, kills Burner quickly.
Cons: Requires a Faction web (15km minimum) and Deadspace armor repairer; it's more expensive, but unfortunately no way around this. 4m4s before exhausting cap.

Credit: Anize Oramara (*modifications Arthur)
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Team Burner [ALL] » Garmur
Hull: 65m ISK, Fittings: 31.7m ISK; 96.6m ISK total

3x Polarized Rocket Launcher
5000x (each) Caldari Navy Mjolnir, Inferno, Scourge, Nova rockets
2500x Javelin Mjolnir Rockets

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
2x Missile Guidance Computer II, missile range script
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

2x Ballistic Control System II
Co-Processor II

Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Small Hydaulic Bay Thrusters I
Small Warhead Flare Catalyst I

Utilization: Orbit @20km (25km for Jaguar), engage MWD. Lock, activate MGCs and target escorts first. Apply ammunition as follows: Hawk/Bantam (Mjolnir), Burst (Javelin Mjolnir) Enyo/Navitas/Inquisitor (Nova), Vengeance: Inferno, Jaguar: Scourge.

Pros: Minimal micromanagement, no cap booster or drone costs; fast completion.
Cons: Occasional wrecking shot can scare the sh*t out of you; forgetting to orbit Jaguar @25km.

Credit: Anize Oramara

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#2 - 2016-02-12 03:52:03 UTC
Added fit for Burner Succubus (Daredevil).

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Civ Kado
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2016-02-12 04:35:04 UTC
I thought you could use ECM against them?
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#4 - 2016-02-12 04:51:39 UTC
Civ Kado wrote:
I thought you could use ECM against them?

The Team Burners?

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2016-02-12 05:59:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Hasikan Miallok
ECM works on teamburners allowing a "safer" non-polarized light missile fit.

However the vagaries of ECM mean you will prob take more like 10 minutes per mission.

If you just run the occasional burner to supplement mainstream missioning the ECM LML Garmur is an OK safe cheap option. If you are trying to blitz burners and get your ISK/hour maxed out you probably need the Polarized Rocket version.
Funky Koval
Bad Artists
#6 - 2016-02-12 09:46:07 UTC
I have been runing Team Burner missions in a rail Enyo with double mission-specific meta 4 ECM fitted.

The main issue with this setup is low dps applied to high kin/thermal resist burners. An arty version of the same concept might be a possible solution (Jaguar or even Thrasher?).

To avoid tracking issues, instead of orbiting I just keep at range. It does take up to 10 min to finish a mission though.

Intend to try polarized version of that fit too.

Not gonna post it here though, as the Garmur fit is likely better (if a tad more expensive).
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#7 - 2016-02-12 10:42:53 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
If you just run the occasional burner to supplement mainstream missioning the ECM LML Garmur is an OK safe cheap option. If you are trying to blitz burners and get your ISK/hour maxed out you probably need the Polarized Rocket version.

I'm also looking for fits where you don't have to swap out modules. The Polarized fit is 100% safe, and it's not hard to simply orbit and apply MWD.

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#8 - 2016-02-12 12:45:14 UTC
Try replacing the TP for another MGC; I don't know what your missile skills are like, but with 3x MGCs (without any scripts), I find that they seem to have more effect than with the TP applied.

This is just anecdotal though, I haven't done any rigorous testing or recording of data.

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#9 - 2016-02-12 13:25:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
Bumblefck wrote:
Try replacing the TP for another MGC; I don't know what your missile skills are like, but with 3x MGCs (without any scripts), I find that they seem to have more effect than with the TP applied.

This is just anecdotal though, I haven't done any rigorous testing or recording of data.

I'll definitely give that a try. I've got perfect missile and TP skills along with +6 implants, so I don't think I'm going to see much of a difference between the TP and a third MCG. I could be wrong, though.

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Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2016-02-20 00:10:47 UTC
I wish Amarr ships were more viable for burner missions, so far I haven't seen anybody posting fits where they use amarr ships, in which they also work.
Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#11 - 2016-02-20 09:57:26 UTC
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
I wish Amarr ships were more viable for burner missions, so far I haven't seen anybody posting fits where they use amarr ships, in which they also work.


the vengeance should work but cant remember against which one. personally the succubus works very well against the angel dram. needs caldari frig too.
Buoytender Bob
Ronin Exploration Mission and Mining
#12 - 2016-02-23 03:27:06 UTC
Am I reading correctly: the Garmur ok as a "one ship fit all" in regards to frigate class burner missions?

Sorry, asking for clarification.

To buck the popular trend, I began to Rage Start instead of Rage Quit.

...and every time I get another piece of Carbon, I know exactly what CCP is getting this Christmas.
Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#13 - 2016-02-23 10:14:14 UTC
Buoytender Bob wrote:
Am I reading correctly: the Garmur ok as a "one ship fit all" in regards to frigate class burner missions?

Sorry, asking for clarification.


only for teamburner.
ShadowGod56
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#14 - 2016-02-23 21:00:51 UTC
Ploing wrote:
Buoytender Bob wrote:
Am I reading correctly: the Garmur ok as a "one ship fit all" in regards to frigate class burner missions?

Sorry, asking for clarification.


only for teamburner.


team burners being the ones where you have to fight the Frig and its 2 logi supports

i also got confused on this and found out the hard way lol