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Uh 400 strontium clathrates for 1 build cycle that gives 40 blocks? So far this was only used for reinforcements.. so you filled the starbase up once and haven't needed it for a long time.
The ice barely gives any strontium.. so 400 per batch is way too high imho. Just thinking about how my ice product storage looks right at this moment.. i have tons of isotopes.. i have tons of heavy water and liquid ozone.. but i barely have any strontium.

Stornium is only a minor component in most ice types, often giving you 1 single strontium if you refine a block of ice. In my opinion, needing 400 of them per 1 batch, giving you 40 blocks is a bit over the top.

As far as I know it's already explained in EVE vegas that there will be different groups within citadel management hierarchy. So owner can make group of defenders - and they can be anyone

Thanks for the answers, CCP. Do you have any for my questions?

If the medium citadel is intended to replace a POS, does it share one attribute with a POS: The ability to unanchor, repackage, and remove it from space in just a few hours?

How long does it take to scoop a citadel? Is it different for different sizes?

What happens to the rigs?

What happens to the stored stuff?

I'm thinking about a mobile market that follows incursions around, among other things.

I understand you that this may not appear right away, but Crest integration will become 100% required.

If you want player citadels to take over NPC stations, you need to make sure CREST integrates in some way. Blues should be able to pull data from the Citadels they can see, but most importantly, if someone sets up a public trade post CREST integration is almost a necessity.

People who NEED this in order to make you grand plan of player owned Citadel Markets a reality:

- Sellers - How many large scale traders use some sort of tool that relies on prices and market order API info to keep track of hundreds to thousands of orders? I would guess all of them. Even random players in null will use Eve-Central to quickly price check items in high sec, etc. If you move the market from an NPC station to a Citadel and that sort of information is not available, sellers will not be happy.

- Asset safety - Sellers will not want to put their stuff in a citadel that can get blown up. Why? Because they will not want to
pay to have it safely returned. It would be worth the loss of a few percentage points of profit to sell in an NPC station that
can never be removed.

- Buyers - How many people use eve-central or eve-praisal to see how much their stuff is worth? I would guess more than 75% of the player base. Same issue as above, if the information is not available your plan will not work.

- Industrialist - They need the API information on markets to judge what they are making. Repeat reasons from above.


What will happen if CREST integration is not available:

Sellers will not move from the NPC stations because they do not want to manually manage their orders. Even if you raise the taxes at the NPC stations, most large scale traders will not move. It would not be worth the extra work required for a few extra %.

Buyers will not move because the sellers do not move. If I look up a price in eve central, I am not going to check the market every jump/region to find a lower price in a citadel that I cannot see on the web.

Central market Hub Theory (Jita) - This will not break Jita, Amarr, etc. as the central places to do business. There is a reason that the last time you guys tried to break up the central hub by changing some of the stargates, it moved to Jita. There MUST be a central market or group of hubs that acts like it.

Prices will rise by whatever percentage you increase the NPC taxes. This is because the main hubs will still be in NPC stations and people who do sell in Citadels will still sell at those prices because every price in Eve is somehow connected to "Jita" price.

So, I noticed that the service modules are the item that now incurs the fuel block usage, and also whether it's active or not, it still incurs this usage. So.. When the later structures release such as drilling platform, ship assembly platform, etc, what's stopping me from sticking up any size I want in HS, using an NPC station for cloning, and sticking up these other structures to do my jobs, causing the citadel to not cost me beans in fuel once it's up? This sounds a bit broken to me. I think to get better usage out of the service modules, they should incur the cost of fuel when they are in use. So, a certain fuel startup cost (i.e. like 100 blocks or something) and then use the 5 or 10 per hour afterwards.

Also, if a service module runs out of fuel and there was enough fuel to power the other modules, what happens to that service? or to the citadel for that matter? What goes offline?

Additionally, I'm not sure if anyone else is worried, but allowing the keepstar in HS is just about stupid. NO ONE will ever take these things down unless they are offline in space. Because I'm assuming you need a wardec, and there's not that many HS corps out there that can supply 75 1000dps ships to cap out the dps max to reinforce that sucker. Or if it's offline, it'll take over an hour to pop it. AND from the previous devblogs, all you get is a km! The drop can only be picked up by the owners. That seems like a large risk in resources for practically NO gain.

I figure that most HS corps would be able to bring about 15-30 ships that may or may not have 1000dps. Which means, it's going to take them at least a hour to reinforce or 3 hours to destroy if offline. Keepstars will become like large towers in HS: the moon's useless, it's going to take 5 hours+ to take it down, we're going to have to wardec a corp... why bother?

All citadels drop a % of their build materials as loot.

Whatever % that is, a % of 70-100B is definitely worth the time to wardec and take it down. I imagine there are corps like Marmites, CODE, etc. that are doing the calculations to figure out how fast an XL can kill a suicide destroyer vs. how many you would lose vs. the time to blow it up. If that ISK loss is less than the % of the 70-100B, they will do it just for the grins and profit.

What are the plans about fast ship switching at a citadel?

Situation now on a Ship Maintenace Array:
Warp to the SMA (location) > board new ship (previous one gets stored automatically > warp back into fight

Station:
Warp to the station > dock up > switch ship > undock > warp back into fight (takes much longer as you mostly need to stop and realign before)

You understand the big advantage of SMAs over stations for inhabitants of the solar system?


How will it be on Citadels?

So you think it should work exactly the way it was described to work in the devblog which is the subject of the thread on which you are commenting?

Sov only affects the repair timer as stated in this blog http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/citadels-sieges-and-you-v2/

Nothing about sov fuel cost stated yet

Maybe they are thinking of removing Siege Cycles from Dreads.