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I, for one, welcome our new skill injected overlords

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Dreaded Vengance
The Congregation
HIDDEN LEAF VILLAGE NINJA AssAssIn SQUAD eSports
#1 - 2016-02-11 11:18:47 UTC
It's a bit like old vs new money in RL but we shouldn't turn our noses up at the sudden influx of ISK rich and now middling SP specced characters - no, we should embrace their good fortune, it's the only way to move forward.

To our new SP rich brothers and sisters; I'd like you to consider the prospect of Low Security space, it's a much maligned but opportunity rich area that's vastly under exploited considering the wealth available. There are many, many very quiet areas that will enable you to recoup your initial ISK investment into your character.

Now, I understand that you may be skeptical as you've heard nothing but stories of piracy, gatecamps, scams etc. And yes, a quick check on my history may show some very light involvement in a few of these activities. However, each has it's own story and I'm just a victim of circumstance, I just want to mine in peace. It cannot be said that I'm not a man of my word.

So, in the spirit of acceptance I'd like to offer a safe entry point into Low Sec for any new pilot that wishes to make it rich here. I will ensure you have a seamless transit from high to low, but I need to ensure interlopers do not exploit my generosity so I'll only consider helping those that have a reasonable asset/s to move in. Please bear in mind that I'm not offering any sort of hauling service, simply easy entry.

If you feel that you're ready to take the next step in your journey, please convo me in-game.

P.S. There are many trolls and naysayers on these forums that will attempt to derail my good intentions, theirs maybe not so.
Rhohan
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2016-02-11 11:21:27 UTC
I support this message.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#3 - 2016-02-11 11:30:09 UTC
I'm a bit sad to see the legacy unique things go away, such as Dr Caymus being the most SP pilot for the past 10 years.

It was making things a bit more unique and had a special place in my heart for being a sandbox, seeing as he's now passed by 50m sp in two days that's sad to see change.

I knew it would happen but really took away some of the awesome things in EVE.

No longer can he say he has spent the past decade purely keeping his position as the most skilled (sp wise) pilot in EVE, because over the night a pilot with enough ISK and/or real money, bought his/her way to the same spot he spent many years to keep.

/c

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Mr Mieyli
Doomheim
#4 - 2016-02-11 11:51:39 UTC
I for one endorse this product / service, happy trails newbros o/

Don't forget to write o/

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Jarsoom Blade
Blade's Legion
#5 - 2016-02-11 12:04:29 UTC
Nice message, good read, much feels.

"Two things I've learned lately. One: don't get jammed. And two: stationary ships don't react well to 1400's" - John Rourke, Clear Skies 2

Dreaded Vengance
The Congregation
HIDDEN LEAF VILLAGE NINJA AssAssIn SQUAD eSports
#6 - 2016-02-11 12:16:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Dreaded Vengance
Chribba wrote:
I knew it would happen but really took away some of the awesome things in EVE.


You mean that strategic and careful planning of character development, tweaking of attributes, mapping out months or maybe years of training in well developed community driven 3rd party tools, learning to cope with what you had right then and learning to play the game in a way that meant that when you finally had access to that ship or module you both had a sense of achievement and were a better player by employing that 'make do' approach has somehow been entirely cheapened?

The world moves on dear Chribba, society nowadays expects instant access to all the toys, regardless of cost or a lack of overall experience. We may be considered dinosaurs in an ever consumer driven environment if we were even to raise a concern.

Hence my OP, I'm here to help all of the instant vets, I'm running with the times.

Can I count on you to endorse my service?
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#7 - 2016-02-11 12:41:08 UTC
Kids and their instant access expectations! I think I will always be a dinosaur Smile

I think the retention of players may still be at risk even more with these new fancy things, but like you said, times move on and perhaps I'm just not keeping up because I put 13 years of work into things, but no regrets and I'm sure that there will be plenty of opportunity for newets to lose their things.

I sadly cannot endorse your service, as it's not under my control and there's nothing stopping anyone from saying one thing and doing the other - that will never change, not even in EVE.

So at least this remains, and should be a reminder to any newet - "Don't fly what you cannot afford to lose" - sp injects or not.

/c

★★★ Secure 3rd party service ★★★

Visit my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar'

Twitter @ChribbaVeldspar

Memphis Baas
#8 - 2016-02-11 12:55:37 UTC
Retention of players is nice when there's something to do; we're kinda stagnated in null because of the capitals and citadels revamp.

So, this way, EVE becomes like the other MMOs: they get an influx of returning players and some good income when they put in some WORK and release an expansion that's worth playing, and in about 3 months everyone loses interest and they have to re-attract everyone with another quality expansion.

So, CCP's already on a monthly expansion release program. Now they just have to make each one of them GOOD, and they'll have retention. Not based on our addiction to seeing the SP number slowly increase, but based on the quality of their work. As it should be.
Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#9 - 2016-02-11 12:58:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniela Doran
Dreaded Vengance wrote:
It's a bit like old vs new money in RL but we shouldn't turn our noses up at the sudden influx of ISK rich and now middling SP specced characters - no, we should embrace their good fortune, it's the only way to move forward.

To our new SP rich brothers and sisters; I'd like you to consider the prospect of Low Security space, it's a much maligned but opportunity rich area that's vastly under exploited considering the wealth available. There are many, many very quiet areas that will enable you to recoup your initial ISK investment into your character.

Now, I understand that you may be skeptical as you've heard nothing but stories of piracy, gatecamps, scams etc. And yes, a quick check on my history may show some very light involvement in a few of these activities. However, each has it's own story and I'm just a victim of circumstance, I just want to mine in peace. It cannot be said that I'm not a man of my word.

So, in the spirit of acceptance I'd like to offer a safe entry point into Low Sec for any new pilot that wishes to make it rich here. I will ensure you have a seamless transit from high to low, but I need to ensure interlopers do not exploit my generosity so I'll only consider helping those that have a reasonable asset/s to move in. Please bear in mind that I'm not offering any sort of hauling service, simply easy entry.

If you feel that you're ready to take the next step in your journey, please convo me in-game.

P.S. There are many trolls and naysayers on these forums that will attempt to derail my good intentions, theirs maybe not so.

Won't matter in the end because this game is well on its way to vaporware-land within 1-2 years.
Memphis Baas
#10 - 2016-02-11 13:05:40 UTC
You're aware that vaporware becomes actual-ware whenever they actually release something? Such as the monthly expansions, for example.
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#11 - 2016-02-11 13:11:20 UTC
Daniela Doran wrote:

Won't matter in the end because this game is well on its way to vaporware-land within 1-2 years.

Perhaps in your own little dream world. Feel free to quit today. You won't be missed.

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.

Anyura
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2016-02-11 13:12:59 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
You're aware that vaporware becomes actual-ware whenever they actually release something? Such as the monthly expansions, for example.


I thought vaporware was that alternative to cigarettes.
Dreaded Vengance
The Congregation
HIDDEN LEAF VILLAGE NINJA AssAssIn SQUAD eSports
#13 - 2016-02-11 13:26:42 UTC
Daniela Doran wrote:

Won't matter in the end because this game is well on its way to vaporware-land within 1-2 years.


You haven't trained quoting efficiency to lvl 5. I do believe there's now a quick fix available...

Also, Duke Nukem Forever was vaporware for a considerable time, but since release is no longer. Games that have been released but are or will be no longer available are just dead games, like Dust 514 for example.
Avvy
Doomheim
#14 - 2016-02-11 13:30:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Avvy
Chribba wrote:
I'm a bit sad to see the legacy unique things go away, such as Dr Caymus being the most SP pilot for the past 10 years.

It was making things a bit more unique and had a special place in my heart for being a sandbox, seeing as he's now passed by 50m sp in two days that's sad to see change.

I knew it would happen but really took away some of the awesome things in EVE.

No longer can he say he has spent the past decade purely keeping his position as the most skilled (sp wise) pilot in EVE, because over the night a pilot with enough ISK and/or real money, bought his/her way to the same spot he spent many years to keep.

/c



I said all along there should be a maximum level at which point they would no longer work so that it protected those high level sp characters that had played for years.

Sadly it seems that never happened.


Edit:

Although of course if one of the highest level characters went through the bazaar, it would have messed things up at the top anyway. Maybe that's why they decided not to.
Dreaded Vengance
The Congregation
HIDDEN LEAF VILLAGE NINJA AssAssIn SQUAD eSports
#15 - 2016-02-11 13:31:48 UTC
Chribba wrote:
I sadly cannot endorse your service, as it's not under my control and there's nothing stopping anyone from saying one thing and doing the other - that will never change, not even in EVE.


Unfortunate, but understandable and I thank you for your careful consideration.

However, for all Newets (nicely coined) considering my offer - full written terms and conditions will be available upon application.
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#16 - 2016-02-11 13:35:01 UTC
Eve is mere shadow of its former self lets just hope this works and horde of players join in they are running out of things to sell.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard

Dreaded Vengance
The Congregation
HIDDEN LEAF VILLAGE NINJA AssAssIn SQUAD eSports
#17 - 2016-02-11 15:35:00 UTC
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
Eve is mere shadow of its former self lets just hope this works and horde of players join in they are running out of things to sell.


IMO the tools are there, to some extent it's the will of the player base thats lacking right now. Positions have been established, power-blocks evolved, bandwagons have been mounted and the name of the game is pixelated asset consolidation.

Sov/cap/travel/whatever changes may affect that to a degree, however the one thing that sustained EVE for all this time was....drama. That's what pulled players in and retained them more so than any game mechanic, shiny ship skin or fast tracking device. The grand tales of our little game which made it into mainstream press were the biggest adrenaline shots ever had. Now everything is a set piece, pre-arranged, without substantial risk.

So this is now a grrr goons thread, we're playing their game, but to be fair this was their objective all along - we just forgot.

I think we should all go shoot something.

Pandora Carrollon
Provi Rapid Response
#18 - 2016-02-11 16:09:05 UTC
Since I'm not playing the skill buy game, I'm doing it the old fashioned hard way (yeah, I'm stupid that way), as a service to my fellow newbies only a teenie, tiny thing to point out in the OP post...

I'm reminded of a line from the Eagle's "Hotel California" and the post seems to echo the sentiment, though not formally stated:

"You can checkout any time you like, but you can never leave."

Just kinda got that vibe... I could be wrong. Roll
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#19 - 2016-02-11 16:11:29 UTC
Chribba wrote:
I'm a bit sad to see the legacy unique things go away, such as Dr Caymus being the most SP pilot for the past 10 years.

It was making things a bit more unique and had a special place in my heart for being a sandbox, seeing as he's now passed by 50m sp in two days that's sad to see change.

I knew it would happen but really took away some of the awesome things in EVE.

No longer can he say he has spent the past decade purely keeping his position as the most skilled (sp wise) pilot in EVE, because over the night a pilot with enough ISK and/or real money, bought his/her way to the same spot he spent many years to keep.

/c


He can buy some SP injectors and reclaim his spot.

Hooray for free markets!
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM Defensive Initiative
#20 - 2016-02-11 16:12:31 UTC
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