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[IKAME] Remarkable Sisters of Eve force confirmed

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Haria Haritimado
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#1 - 2016-02-09 12:11:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Haria Haritimado
Fellow pilots,

Scouting for an upcoming operation in one of the five Drifter occupied shattered systems, I was receiving a distinctive signal. A task force of Sisters of Eve ships is waiting seemingly dormant (no active engines) at planet I. The task force includes 18 Stratios, 26 Asteros, and 10 Nestor class vessels. Thus, the latest report about SoE activities seems to be correct. Besides the vessels present, there are no further hints at their possible mission objectives.

Sincerely,

Haria Haritimado
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Unit XS365BT
Unit Commune
#2 - 2016-02-09 12:45:43 UTC
Query:
Was there any noticeable construction or activity upon the planetary surface?

We Return.

Unit XS365BT. Designated Communications Officer. Unit Commune.

Haria Haritimado
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#3 - 2016-02-09 13:11:32 UTC
Unit XS365BT wrote:
Query: Was there any noticeable construction or activity upon the planetary surface?


Resolving: No apparent installations. Planet surface is devastated as usual for so called shattered planets.

Haria Haritimado
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#4 - 2016-02-09 13:44:12 UTC
Were they lockable?

Asking for a friend.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2016-02-09 15:35:54 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Were they lockable?

Asking for a friend.



Or can they be boarded?

Also asking for a friend.

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#6 - 2016-02-09 16:18:09 UTC
All I can say is that they don't respond to any communications.

I flew by their formation and waved with my ship's wings; they must've noticed me, but gave no sign of it in response.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#7 - 2016-02-10 04:54:25 UTC
Pilots;

An ARC group penetrated the Conflux Hive at approximately 2100hrs. Our investigation did not turn up any unusual activity in the Hive itself, though of course Drifter Hives are replete with mysteries all the same.

We await word from CONCORD or the Sisters on what they are seeking.

As it stands, it appears the Sisters are holding position well away from the Hive or any other Sleeper or Drifter constructs.

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Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#8 - 2016-02-10 07:42:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Utari Onzo
An interesting, and potentially worrying development? If the Sisters are involved, but their objectives aren't clear, who knows what's going on.

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#9 - 2016-02-10 13:20:57 UTC
As I write this, I am preparing a thundering sermon against the wicked, vile Sisters of EVE. But I require tactical information to complete this sermon. Are these SoE fleets targetable? Destructible? What do they leave behind in wreckage and salvage? What are their defensive capabilities? What are the suggested strategies for destroying their fleets?

Do not worry, O Chosen and Righteous Non-Chosen; there is no sin against God in reconnaissance in force against the wicked and vile Sisters of EVE. I shall make clear to all how they stand under the wrath of a holy and righteous God. Amen. Amarr Victor.
Haria Haritimado
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#10 - 2016-02-10 14:56:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Haria Haritimado
Nauplius wrote:
As I write this, I am preparing a thundering sermon against the wicked, vile Sisters of EVE. But I require tactical information to complete this sermon. Are these SoE fleets targetable? Destructible? What do they leave behind in wreckage and salvage? What are their defensive capabilities? What are the suggested strategies for destroying their fleets?


Mr. Nauplius,

As this is a public forum for general discussion, I can't disclose any tactical information of the kind you request. Given the aggressive nature of your endeavour and its implications, you have to acquire such information elsewhere, I fear. Itsukame-Zainou is not taking an aggressive stance against humanitarian organizations.

Respectfully,

Haria Haritimado
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2016-02-12 01:00:42 UTC
Haria Haritimado wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
As I write this, I am preparing a thundering sermon against the wicked, vile Sisters of EVE. But I require tactical information to complete this sermon. Are these SoE fleets targetable? Destructible? What do they leave behind in wreckage and salvage? What are their defensive capabilities? What are the suggested strategies for destroying their fleets?


Mr. Nauplius,

As this is a public forum for general discussion, I can't disclose any tactical information of the kind you request. Given the aggressive nature of your endeavour and its implications, you have to acquire such information elsewhere, I fear. Itsukame-Zainou is not taking an aggressive stance against humanitarian organizations.

Respectfully,

Haria Haritimado
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.



Ms. Haritimado,

You have stated your support for a petition for CONCORD and the DED to release their information on the Drifters. And I quote:

Haria Haritimado wrote:
I strongly urge the DED to react mindfully in favor of the petition above.

Haria Haritimado
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.


Now you would deny someone who is willing to fight these monsters the knowledge you have. I would suggest that you're being a tad hypocritical.

Although I deplore everything you stand for Nauplius, and I hope you meet God soon on a permanent basis, to answer your questions:

The fleets are targetable. They are, as of two days ago, indestructible. To answer my previous question (for a friend), they cannot be boarded via a Capsule. They do not appear to have engaged anyone as yet, so there is no debris or salvage. Their defensive capabilities should be in-line with their ship types, but without engagement, I cannot say for sure. Strategically, I do not advise engaging them at present. As much as the SOE are complicit in withholding information along with CONCORD, it would be wiser to observe them carefully, report their actions publicly and wait and see if they engage the Drifters, how, and what the results of said engagement might be. That they have not engaged the Drifters and that the Drifters have not engaged them leads to a degree of (paranoid) speculation. I will say that as a corporation that describes itself as "a humanitarian aid organization," they historically, have done a very, very poor job.

So go hunt Drifters Nauplius. They are a much greater, heretical and military threat to God and Empire than a tired band of Tribals who say they come for their people, but still haven't leaned how to use a Nav Computer. You'll probably die in the attempt, and I'm ok with that. But at least your death will do some degree of good.

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Haria Haritimado
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#12 - 2016-02-12 11:24:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Haria Haritimado
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
Now you would deny someone who is willing to fight these monsters the knowledge you have. I would suggest that you're being a tad hypocritical.


Respectable Mr. Sinjin Mokk,

Please excuse me for any trouble I may have caused. The petition I signed is refering to the Vigilant Tyrannos. The information Mr. Nauplius asked for refers to a Sisters of Eve flotilla. Both appear very different to me and Itsukame-Zainou is not willing to support the kind of aggressive agenda Mr. Nauplius proclaimed against the Sisters of Eve.

Anyway, I realize that your denunciation of myself as hypocritical might be built on the perception of the Sisters of Eve as a group comparable to the Drifters in some way. Or that there are some hidden agendas and that the Sisters of Eve are complicit in withholding information and therefore tactical information is crucial. As it seems, we judge very differently about the Sisters of Eve then. But I completely agree with your advise "to observe them carefully, report their actions publicly and wait and see if they engage the Drifters, how, and what the results of said engagement might be". This is, in fact, the very purpose of this thread.

Thank you for bringing your worries to attention.

Sincerely,

Haria Haritimado
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#13 - 2016-02-12 14:09:24 UTC
It is unfortunate that these new Sisters of EVE fleets are indestructible, because
GOD HAS GIVEN THE SISTERS OF EVE OVER TO DESTRUCTION.

God has lost his patience with the Sisters of EVE Anti-Vitoc Agenda. God fumes with anger when the Sisters of EVE criminalize Vitoc in their space. God fumes with anger when he Sisters of EVE buy up all the Vitoc from SCC markets. God fumes with anger when the Sisters of EVE launch massive fleets into wormhole space in order to seek out new cures for Vitoc.

And so God has given the Sister of EVE over to destruction. We are to be as demons to them, as if the Sisters of EVE were already in the bowels of Hell; no punishment, no torture is too great to inflict upon them, for God has given the Sisters of EVE over to destruction. The Blood of the Sisters of EVE grants holiness to the Chosen, and truly, God will reward those who destroy the Sisters of EVE with heaps of crowns in Paradise.

Even so, may the Blood Age come quickly. Amen. Amarr Victor.
Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#14 - 2016-02-12 15:16:32 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
We are to be as demons to them


I *knew* the glowing Talocan space portals were portents of a demonic invasion!
Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2016-02-13 02:29:56 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
It is unfortunate that these new Sisters of EVE fleets are indestructible, because
GOD HAS GIVEN THE SISTERS OF EVE OVER TO DESTRUCTION.

God has lost his patience with the Sisters of EVE Anti-Vitoc Agenda. God fumes with anger when the Sisters of EVE criminalize Vitoc in their space. God fumes with anger when he Sisters of EVE buy up all the Vitoc from SCC markets. God fumes with anger when the Sisters of EVE launch massive fleets into wormhole space in order to seek out new cures for Vitoc.

And so God has given the Sister of EVE over to destruction. We are to be as demons to them, as if the Sisters of EVE were already in the bowels of Hell; no punishment, no torture is too great to inflict upon them, for God has given the Sisters of EVE over to destruction. The Blood of the Sisters of EVE grants holiness to the Chosen, and truly, God will reward those who destroy the Sisters of EVE with heaps of crowns in Paradise.

Even so, may the Blood Age come quickly. Amen. Amarr Victor.



No...NO...No Nauplius. Bad Nauplius. Go fight Drifters. DRIFTERS.

And seriously, VITOC is for amateur slavers. Who cares?

"Don't be a dip! Chip before you whip!"

*sigh* Why I even bother...I swear I'm going to get "I am not the Idiot Whisperer" tattooed on the inside of my eyelids.

GO. KILL. DRIFTERS.

Oh for f*ck's sake...

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#16 - 2016-02-13 04:01:29 UTC
Mr. Mokk, um, with due respect, berating one of my staff for not releasing tactical information on a Sisters of EVE flotilla that appears to be gathering intelligence on the Drifters...? Calling her a hypocrite for not releasing specific details when the thread you're commenting on is a general release of what general information we have...?

Um.

What?

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Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2016-02-14 02:55:28 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Mr. Mokk, um, with due respect, berating one of my staff for not releasing tactical information on a Sisters of EVE flotilla that appears to be gathering intelligence on the Drifters...? Calling her a hypocrite for not releasing specific details when the thread you're commenting on is a general release of what general information we have...?

Um.

What?



Ms. Priano,

While I respect your work and the efforts that you've made to help stem the tide of Drifter aggression, please do not forget that we are at war. And I'm not talking about just Khanid or Amarr. I mean we, as a species are at war. Your counterpart was asked for intel regarding the actions of the SoE in relation to the Drifter threat and refused to provide it. Why? Because the person asking is a Bloodraider? I have news for you, the Drifters don't care about God or heretics. They don't care about lines on a star chart or laws or culture. So if I have the opportunity to aim a creature like Nauplius at them, I'm going to do so, because the situation we're in is just that serious. Five, almost six years ago, I watched as Sansha Kuvakei kidnapped millions of innocents across the galaxy and CONCORD and the SoE for all their talk of being peacemakers and defenders did nothing. Now, when faced with an even bigger threat, a near-alien presence that has the theoretical capability to end us, I see history repeating itself. CONCORD and the SoE are withholding information that could prove vital to ending the Drifter threat now, before it blossoms into something we have no chance of beating. If we start doing the same, if we sit by paralyzed by inaction as many of or governments do, if we put our faith in corruption that is CONCORD and the SoE, we may lose everything. And all we are, all our history, all the things that we've accomplished over the millennia will have been for naught. One does not worry about maintaining the moral high ground when one is beset upon by beasts. These...things must be destroyed, and by any means necessary.

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Skyweir Kinnison
Doomheim
#18 - 2016-02-14 10:32:29 UTC
You let your emotions run away with you, Lord Mokk. Understandable, since it is your homeland that is under attack. I should feel the same way, if it were my home and people in the frontline.

Nonetheless, emotion, however raw, does not make for good decisions. Your plea contains many 'mays' and 'ifs', too many for governmental policy. CONCORD, the cluster governments, and even organisations like IKAME are well aware that information is power. Another platitude is applicable: a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Providing incomplete intelligence on an indiscriminate basis, especially to known criminals without the bounds of civilisation - such as Nauplius - would be the height of irresponsibility. Your argument that the human race as a whole is at war is unproven. What is incontrovertible is our long history showing that if one group of evil men can use power to further their own aims at the expense of others, they will - even if it means they burn down in the building as well.

Capsuleers are the worst sort for this, as many of us entertain the delusion of immortality. That is why CONCORD, for all its many flaws, exists to provide some sort of brake.

I am with you, and the aims of the petition, in exhorting some more transparency, even if that is just to communicate the reasoning behind keeping some information secret whilst being worked on. I do not support indiscriminate release of any and all data, just because a mass murderer demands it. In this matter, I have come to trust the leaders of IKAME - as I trust CONCORD - despite my own prior misgivings.

Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.

Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2016-02-14 18:39:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Sinjin Mokk
Skyweir Kinnison wrote:
You let your emotions run away with you, Lord Mokk. Understandable, since it is your homeland that is under attack. I should feel the same way, if it were my home and people in the frontline.

Nonetheless, emotion, however raw, does not make for good decisions. Your plea contains many 'mays' and 'ifs', too many for governmental policy. CONCORD, the cluster governments, and even organisations like IKAME are well aware that information is power. Another platitude is applicable: a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Providing incomplete intelligence on an indiscriminate basis, especially to known criminals without the bounds of civilisation - such as Nauplius - would be the height of irresponsibility. Your argument that the human race as a whole is at war is unproven. What is incontrovertible is our long history showing that if one group of evil men can use power to further their own aims at the expense of others, they will - even if it means they burn down in the building as well.

Capsuleers are the worst sort for this, as many of us entertain the delusion of immortality. That is why CONCORD, for all its many flaws, exists to provide some sort of brake.

I am with you, and the aims of the petition, in exhorting some more transparency, even if that is just to communicate the reasoning behind keeping some information secret whilst being worked on. I do not support indiscriminate release of any and all data, just because a mass murderer demands it. In this matter, I have come to trust the leaders of IKAME - as I trust CONCORD - despite my own prior misgivings.



My dear Mr. Kinnison,

If my words appear overly passionate, it is because I believe in the righteousness of this cause and the danger we all face.

And again, do not fool yourself into thinking this this is only an Amarr issue. If the Drifters could hotdrop the Amarr Head of State, there is no government or person in this Galaxy who is truly safe.

Providing intel to "known criminals" under certain circumstances is of course to be avoided. In this case however? As I said, we are all at war, even if certain people are fighting it from the safety of an armchair. The proof is in the death of the Amarr Empress.

The Drifters don't care about our concepts of "good" and "evil." Those are our societal definitions, not theirs. So if "good" people and "evil" people are willing to take up arms against the Drifters, they should be afforded every opportunity to do so. I have been a man of the Law for most of my life. I have been a criminal too. And in the final analysis, it really doesn't matter. This war isn't about who is right, it's about who is left.

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#20 - 2016-02-14 19:02:50 UTC
Mr. Mokk;

In brief, we will of course report on the actions of the Sisters of EVE fleet, as they relate to the Drifters. If there is useful intelligence that assists in the fight against the Drifters, then we will release that as well.

However, tactical information on the Sisters of EVE fleet, stripped of relation to the Drifter threat, is tantamount to pointing Nauplius at the Sisters, not at the Drifters. What ever we think of the Sisters, providing Nauplius this information does us no good against the Drifters, and may possibly do harm to our cause.

If you believe that we are failing in our obligations as a coalition, and you feel the Sisters of EVE presence warrants a hostile response, then you are perfectly welcome to provide Nauplius the intelligence in question.

We will not.

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