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Please justify the FAX skill book cost

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Chur Jouhinen
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-02-09 16:26:21 UTC
I can accept the fact that the skills are being split without doubling our SP at this point since we dont know details on the ships, but seriously...

500M skill books. An extra 2B just to SIT inside what we can already sit in today (a capital ship capable of triage or fighters).

Carrier skill books are fine at 500M because it gives you access to supers. The FAX skill book should be the same as Dreads since there is no super FAX. This still means shelling out 400M, but a much easier pill to swallow than 2B!
James Tiberius Kirk
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2016-02-09 16:35:55 UTC
Its a 20th century technology, so no one really knows how they work, why they work, or how to operate them. Thus the increased cost of learning.
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#3 - 2016-02-09 16:38:18 UTC
Sounds like a nice little one-off ISK sink. And, anyway, if you're flying cap ships, a one-time half billion expense should be pocket change.

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

Jacques d'Orleans
#4 - 2016-02-09 19:39:01 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
Sounds like a nice little one-off ISK sink. And, anyway, if you're flying cap ships, a one-time half billion expense should be pocket change.


Given the OP's birthday i highly doubt that or just another forum alt detected, you decide. What?
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#5 - 2016-02-09 22:09:19 UTC
I really don't think CCP has to justify anything to a (literally) faceless NPC alt

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#6 - 2016-02-09 22:13:21 UTC
500m sounds cheap to me. Should be more expensive.
Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#7 - 2016-02-09 22:20:52 UTC
Chur Jouhinen wrote:
I can accept the fact that the skills are being split without doubling our SP at this point since we dont know details on the ships, but seriously...

500M skill books. An extra 2B just to SIT inside what we can already sit in today (a capital ship capable of triage or fighters).

Carrier skill books are fine at 500M because it gives you access to supers. The FAX skill book should be the same as Dreads since there is no super FAX. This still means shelling out 400M, but a much easier pill to swallow than 2B!


Don't worry. You're less than a day old. It will be a long time before you can fly it or afford capital ships anyway.

Get back to the career missions.
Memphis Baas
#8 - 2016-02-09 22:27:19 UTC
Seriously, why not reply in the damn dev thread where the devs can see your post.

Because over here we'll just laugh at you.

Or troll you.



Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#9 - 2016-02-09 22:37:20 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:


Or troll you.






I don't know what you're talking about, trolling is prohibited here and these forums are moderated

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#10 - 2016-02-09 22:49:12 UTC
500m seems high yes. this means 2b of spendings on multiple characters each for me.
devs dont need to justify anything at all tho, they set the price, up to you if its worth the isk.
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#11 - 2016-02-10 00:12:56 UTC
The prices are pretty ridiculous. 500m was justified for carriers because of their versatility. They won't have this versatility anymore and neither will the Force Auxiliaries. The price of the skillbooks should reflect this. Both the racial carrier and force aux skillbooks should be 250m.
Cristl
#12 - 2016-02-10 03:33:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Cristl
Primary This Rifter wrote:
The prices are pretty ridiculous. 500m was justified for carriers because of their versatility. They won't have this versatility anymore and neither will the Force Auxiliaries. The price of the skillbooks should reflect this. Both the racial carrier and force aux skillbooks should be 250m.

I'd say a better progression would be:

Dread: 100M (It's a team player)
FAX: 150M (It's a team player)
Carrier: 350M (It can make money on its own, so a bit more pricey)
Super (new skill): 1B
Titan: 5.5B
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#13 - 2016-02-10 03:45:34 UTC
Primary This Rifter wrote:
The prices are pretty ridiculous. 500m was justified for carriers because of their versatility. They won't have this versatility anymore and neither will the Force Auxiliaries. The price of the skillbooks should reflect this. Both the racial carrier and force aux skillbooks should be 250m.


carrier skill still gets you to fly supercarrier so imho, 500m is still acceptable.

and i agree FAX skill book should be lowered not because of it's expensive but out of principle.

i view FAX as same as a dread which has 1 fucntion only, dread to dps/siege and fax to logi/triage.

but if CCP won't change the price then whatevs, still gonna buy it anyway. Smile

Just Add Water

Ildryn
IDLE INTENTIONS
#14 - 2016-02-11 13:17:28 UTC
Cidanel Afuran wrote:


Don't worry. You're less than a day old. It will be a long time before you can fly it or afford capital ships anyway.

Get back to the career missions.


You know skill injectors are a thing....right?
Day old doesn't really matter anymore.
Question is legit.
Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2016-02-11 13:45:33 UTC
Primary This Rifter wrote:
The prices are pretty ridiculous. 500m was justified for carriers because of their versatility. They won't have this versatility anymore and neither will the Force Auxiliaries. The price of the skillbooks should reflect this. Both the racial carrier and force aux skillbooks should be 250m.



Cap logs tell us that actually the dread book is the outlier, not the carrier.

Thankfully, they have no plans to correct that (yet).
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2016-02-11 14:36:51 UTC
Chur Jouhinen wrote:
a capital ship capable of triage or a capital ship that can use fighters


ftfy
Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#17 - 2016-02-11 15:58:00 UTC
Ildryn wrote:
You know skill injectors are a thing....right?
Day old doesn't really matter anymore.
Question is legit.


Sarcasm goes over your head, apparently.

OP, post with your main please.