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That's because it's a direct nerf to one of the few things AGs could do to negatively affect gankers. If this were balanced out with improvements in other areas to make active anti-ganking more viable, it wouldn't be so bad a change. Without that though it's a kick in the nuts to a group that's already laying on the floor.

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OK, so prove it. Because the way it looks at the moment, even though this is obvious advice, not a single anti-ganker has managed to pull this off. I fail to believe that lack of effort is the issue here (since that would suggest that noone that chooses to anti-gank is able to put in any effort, and anyone that can put in effort chooses not to anti-gank), and in my opinion it's that the mechanics to defend a target from gankers are incredibly weak and easily countered.

I think you are underestimating the complexity of the situation overstating the effects that would have on the gankers. During Burn Amarr we had a huge number of anti-gankers trying to point on the undock and on the gates to the target, and swarms of them around the target, and we didn't even make any special effort to defeat them, just added more disposable F1 monkeys to the fleet. Other than giving us something to do in local while we were waiting out our timers, they were laughable incapable of slowing us down regardless of the effort they put in.

Because they were unorganized, running poorly fitted ships, zero probers, not using any good tactics or even communicating with each other. We lost more to the police than anti gankers because of those reasons. They didn't even try to find the undock ping we were using.

AG doesn't win because its full of bad pilots who cant work together. Meanwhile you have RFF doing their own protection and raking in an utter fortune while being so safe they might as well be immune to attack.

This is a problem, you need more than 1 person to do it.
Try armor HIC that have insta lock, they scram at 32km range can mount 5 hic scrams.
3 people sitting at gate can capture up to 15 gank ships.

So prove it. Demonstrate how easily you can be an anti-ganker if you put the effort in and I will gladly admit defeat.

Also RFF are haulers, not anti-gankers. Unless you are suggesting anti-gankers are given the ability to remotely control how other people's freighters are fit, loaded cargo and fly, it's still irrelevant. Plus if you wanted to drop an RFF freighter, you could. There's no such thing as immunity to ganking.

I do. Stop being terrible.

I'm sure you do, yet I've seen fleets of anti-gankers still unable to do a damn thing to even slow down a gank. I think the phrase "easier said than done" comes into play here. But by all means demonstrate how you can consistently stop ganks with your instalocking hics.

Prove it

Lol bring it son, I'll be waiting for ya :)

Lol are those the only time you actually ganked?
Did you ever solo gank anything or do a small freighter fleet?

If those are the only ganking events you did, you clearly have no clue about ganking lol

Just had a look at zkill, most recent freighter kills, first page.

18 out of 22 were either not tanked or 'anti-tanked' (cargo expanders).


82% of freighter pilots don't even try to avoid getting ganked!


This discussion is just silly, it's like saying that mechanics should change because some fool dies repeatedly trying to 1v1 a svipul in a noobship.

I don't shoot stuff, people do it for me, and in case of antigankers faction police.
My job is to capture target, and keep him pin down.