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PIRAT becoming a scam service

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Freyjia Aryana
ASATRU ALLIANCE COMMAND
#1 - 2016-02-09 11:53:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Freyjia Aryana
Exposure of PIRAT's recent degeneration into a quasi-scam service:

PIRAT ever since losing its core mercenary group Big Johnsons's has become a scam service.

The overwhelming majority of its wars include 0 kills. Starting at a base cost of accepting 150million from your wallet.

During a recent War Declaration. I saw a war target of theirs in local, afk sitting at a gate for over 40 minutes in an Omen Navy Issue.

As a long time PIRAT customer, having hired over multiple PIRAT wars in the past. I messaged PIRAT via their public channel and to Achilles SR, their lead-scam sales representative directly. They refused to respond, I even offered to compensate them for their losses if they somehow managed to lose anything to this Omen Navy Issue, as it appeared that is what they were afraid of. Their mobs at various gates are large enough to be able to easily dispatch one or two ships to kill an AFK Navy faction cruiser.

I then posted a screenshot of the person literally sitting there AFK over 40 plus minutes, presumably longer, as they were still not moving after I had flown to and from that system 4 times...

PIRAT not only refused to attack this one person to honour the payment they recieved to do exactly that. They then Declared War on my corporation for pointing out their incompetance. So I am pointing our PIRAT's incompetence to the EVE community. They are an ISK scam, nothing more. PVPers who have set up a system whereby they can get paid for what everyone else does for free in Low, Null and WH space.

I would urge everyone to boycott PIRAT and that every rival Mercenary outfit declare war on them to purge them from the Mercenary market once and for all, (just like Marmite are doing) as they are bording on a scam since losing their core Mercenary groups, PIRAT are now overwhelmingly residing as a parasitic entity profiting from the vendettas of the EVE community, whilst overwhelmingly failing to attack war targets, for example my experience of having flown past a war target that was AFK , 1 jump from Hek, 4 times, over 40 minutes. PIRAT is also incompetant at camping-Amarr and Jita. A role many people hire them with the expecation that they will perform as market prevention.

Statistically it is undeniable that the vast majority, if not 80% of their wars result in 0 kills.

I look forward to becoming a permanent PIRAT war target. And hope that all Mercenary groups will join this boycott in securing what is in their interests, just as Marmite is doing: The complete purging of this degenerated ISK scam service, known as PIRAT from EVE once and for all.

This is what the Crime and Punishment thread should truly be about. For PIRAT, a once useful service, now turned lowly ISK scam in the vast majority of its wars is a crime, that is acting as a parasite upon the EVE community, and their punishment should be annihilation.
Benson en Efnyssen
ATHANOR AQUISISTIONS
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#2 - 2016-02-09 12:03:13 UTC
Didn't feel like hiring Big Johnson's instead then?
Freyjia Aryana
ASATRU ALLIANCE COMMAND
#3 - 2016-02-09 12:06:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Freyjia Aryana
I presume Big Johnson's are not still in the Business, probably due to their falling out with PIRAT. But please dont try to detract from the meaning of the post. PIRAT needs to be purged.

I expect PIRAT types will do all they can in terms of PR deflection on these forums, to attempt to prevent this boycott before it gets started. Because they have to, or they will be destroyed, or be rendered to the lower ranks of the long list of dead and declining Mercenary groups that thought they could turn into Scam services and get away with it.
Benson en Efnyssen
ATHANOR AQUISISTIONS
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#4 - 2016-02-09 12:25:05 UTC
With topics like this I'm sure you're agena will go places.

I mean look at all the CODE. posts.
Freyjia Aryana
ASATRU ALLIANCE COMMAND
#5 - 2016-02-09 12:34:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Freyjia Aryana
Benson en Efnyssen wrote:
look at all the CODE. posts.


I fully support the CODE mission, have done for years, over multiple accounts. I was also an enforcer for CODE for several months. They have principles, PIRAT do not.

(Please note my sarcasm)

The above post is sarcasm, pointing out the nature of the prior posters sense of nihilistic pessimism about any posts like this one that challenge the status quo and threaten the stagnant situation which nihilistic online and especially EVE trolls dwell in.

I never really supported the CODE mission, although I like the theory that it was meant to be about combating botting (cheating) and those who threatened to turn EVE, and other similar situations in other games, into a completely ISK dominated, multiple account botting farming-fest. But everyone should realise it is just a proxy of theMittani.com and to me the CODE project was revealled as having ultimately no principles, masquerading as a principled war, it is anything but, its how the Mittani causes an imbalance between the economies of highsec and his Nullsec stranglehold, by damaging productivity in the new player areas of highsec. In this regard CODE and the Mittani can be considered a vicious trolling cancer against all of the new player base of EVE that even try to mine for more than a couple minutes. This also impacts ship prices, PLEX prices, mineral prices and hurts all players and has even made some players stop playing EVE.

CODE, like PIRAT and like Goonswarm is dominated by vicious, trolling, PVP aholics, meta-trolls, bullies and insane nihilistic degenerates, thus I am an anti-ganker and have been waging war on the likes of CODE and PIRAT (As this forum post calling for the boycotting of PIRAT demonstrates) ever since.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#6 - 2016-02-09 13:15:03 UTC
Freyjia Aryana wrote:
Benson en Efnyssen wrote:
look at all the CODE. posts.


I fully support the CODE mission, have done for years, over multiple accounts. I was also an enforcer for CODE for several months. They have principles, PIRAT do not.
Well, code used to have, but that ended when Loyal took over.....

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Avi Shekelstien
Doomheim
#7 - 2016-02-09 22:21:09 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Freyjia Aryana wrote:
Benson en Efnyssen wrote:
look at all the CODE. posts.


I fully support the CODE mission, have done for years, over multiple accounts. I was also an enforcer for CODE for several months. They have principles, PIRAT do not.
Well, code used to have, but that ended when Loyal took over.....

So how did that duel between the two of you pan out?
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#8 - 2016-02-09 23:26:43 UTC
Whos pirat?

@JerryTPepridge

Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#9 - 2016-02-10 08:05:02 UTC
Avi Shekelstien wrote:
So how did that duel between the two of you pan out?
Loyal didnt show up, something something Tora to evil. You know the basic crying he normally does. Blink

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#10 - 2016-02-10 16:15:37 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Avi Shekelstien wrote:
So how did that duel between the two of you pan out?
Loyal didnt show up, something something Tora to evil. You know the basic crying he normally does. Blink

Lol am I the one that's supposed to say that you blocked him for proposing a duel..
Where you had to pay loyalanon a fitted catalyst if he won, and you'd receive 10b if YOU won

No offense, but you're dumb to have passed the duel
You had nothing to lose, but now...Pirate

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ZmajOgnjeniVuk
Doomheim
#11 - 2016-02-10 18:34:08 UTC
Nothing wrong with scamming. Just a guy trying to make an honest living. Pirate
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#12 - 2016-02-10 18:37:54 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
No offense, but you're dumb to have passed the duel. You had nothing to lose, but now...Pirate
I'll let him know when he enters my priority list. Blink

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Freyjia Aryana
ASATRU ALLIANCE COMMAND
#13 - 2016-02-14 00:36:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Freyjia Aryana
BOYCOTT PIRAT!

This scam service must be purged from EVE once and for all, along with all those who through their lowly hedonism and morphed egoism have eroded and will continue to erode all the virtuous and worthwhile communities and ideals within EVE.

Boycott the PIRAT parasites that perpetuate, polute and exploit the conflicts of EVE to enact a lowly defilement for their own egoistic self-amusement at the expense of thousands of other players with each and every hour that passes.
Loreth
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2016-02-14 05:12:53 UTC
Hire Archetype, we have a big weenis.
Slate 183
Doomheim
#15 - 2016-02-14 11:49:23 UTC
Loreth wrote:
Hire Archetype, we have a big weenis.


Archetype, are the PIRAT of dodixie, both "MERC" alliances prefer to play suspect games on the trade hub > going after targets, they were payed to hit.

BOYCOTT PIRAT and Archetype!!!
Freyjia Aryana
ASATRU ALLIANCE COMMAND
#16 - 2016-02-14 14:48:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Freyjia Aryana
Slate 183 wrote:


BOYCOTT PIRAT and Archetype!!!


Indeed. BOYCOTT them both. It is suspicious that Archetype declared War on one of my other (less than one day old) corporations after the above post. Maybe there is a deeper connection/collusion between these different, supposedly independent PIRAT groups, to attempt to assert a hegemony over the mercenary scene?

BOYCOTT ALL PIRAT-STYLE SCAM MERCENARIES.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#17 - 2016-02-14 15:39:06 UTC
Freyjia Aryana wrote:
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BOYCOTT ALL PIRAT-STYLE SCAM MERCENARIES.




PIRAT ALL BOYCOTT-STYLE MERCENARY SCAMS

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#18 - 2016-02-15 03:47:36 UTC
whos boycott?

@JerryTPepridge

Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#19 - 2016-02-15 05:09:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaely Tanniss
Freyjia Aryana wrote:
Slate 183 wrote:


BOYCOTT PIRAT and Archetype!!!


Indeed. BOYCOTT them both. It is suspicious that Archetype declared War on one of my other (less than one day old) corporations after the above post. Maybe there is a deeper connection/collusion between these different, supposedly independent PIRAT groups, to attempt to assert a hegemony over the mercenary scene?

BOYCOTT ALL PIRAT-STYLE SCAM MERCENARIES.


OP, I'm not sure you undertand what merc work is about or what it's like. Most of the time wts just hide or never log on. Sure, the situation you explained with a lone wt sitting afk on a gate is inexcusable. Even a single decent merc pilot could handle that. However, there are issues of bait. Typically a wt is not going to sit on a gate with active wts in system unless he's up to something. Not saying he was definitely baiting...but any merc with a brain in their head would question it...especially when someone is offering "intel" about a target they insist they "go get now".

There are many who don't particularly care for PIRAT, myself included. But I'm not sure you're going to get the reaction you're looking for by posting borderline tear threads here. Join a merc corp and take it to PIRAT yourself..or jump onto a PIRAT war as an assist against them. You may get better results. After all, if you want something done your way, do it yourself.

Also, I can assure you one thing, Archetype is NOT a part of, alts of, or afiliated in any way with PIRAT. Most merc corps/alliances either don't like them either..or just don't plain care about them enough for them to matter either way. Good luck trying to get someone to fight your battle for you. I'm sure if your pockets are deep enough, you may find someone who cares enough to bother. I wish you luck in this endeavor. Personally, I agree with you on one level..but as a merc, your approach is completely wrong. Smile

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#20 - 2016-02-15 13:29:21 UTC
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
whos boycott?




BOYCOTT

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

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