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The most terrifying ship you can face in 0.0 1v1
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Alua Oresson
Aegis Ascending
Solyaris Chtonium
#41 - 2012-01-10 21:08:53 UTC
Most terrifying ship to face is any PL ship with a cyno fitted. Actually, I would bet that a cyno is a standard on all of their fits.

http://pvpwannabe.blogspot.com/
Luba Cibre
Global Song Setup
#42 - 2012-01-10 21:29:40 UTC
nope, cynos stick to kestrels and falcons.

"Nothing essential happens in the absence of noise." 
Freyya
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2012-01-10 23:01:50 UTC
I'd be inclined to say a fully pimped out Vindicator. t2 neutrons with null for those pesky 20K-30K nutters, and void for when you do catch them. Officer web overheated for the null to work and get in closer for void. a-type eanm's, faction plates for less mass addition, x-type mwd, fed navy magstabs(prefferably officers but those just cost too much :P) and a nice hefty point.

Fitted properly you're looking at about 17-1800 dps with drones and void + a volley damage of about 7-8000 per 5.xx seconds. That's assuming full on hits each time so less in reality. Tank will be quite nice for such dps aswell so.... It's pretty scary to me though you're looking at about 8+ billion in equipment, rigs and implants. More like 10 really.

After writing this all i'm going to assume that flying a Bhaal will be cheaper and alot easier to use. Neut the crap out of them till they die due to lazer fire and being capless...
Borun Tal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2012-01-11 00:41:22 UTC
Sorry, what?

1v1 in null?

Um, what's that?!?!!
Cyzlaki
BRAWLS DEEP
HYPE-TRAIN
#45 - 2012-01-11 03:30:38 UTC
My Talos.
Khrage
#46 - 2012-01-11 05:00:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Khrage
excluding cyno mother****s, pimped bhaalgorn... why would anyone ever try to take one on by himself?
Biced
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#47 - 2012-01-11 08:30:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Biced
Griznatch wrote:
Citizen Smif wrote:
The Archetect wrote:
DarkAegix wrote:
Machariel, because it's impossible to solo kill unless you're in a better Machariel or have a capital.


http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14624199

*cough*


How the **** did you do that? Even with gate guns assistance I don't see how that was possible.. Would have thought some backup would arrive at some point. Lol what an embarassing KM for that mach pilot hahahaha.



Its in a .5 system, and hes buffer fit. Its clearly a stupid carebear that shot a ninja. The ninja just pointed him and let the mission rats handle it.

The jag pilot only did about 300 damage which is about 1% of the damage taken by the mach.



Name: Ammatar Surveillance General Major / Ammatar Consulate
Damage Done: 36667

dude in war must have had bad standings to amarr or something...
very nice chatch though.



anyways id go with a pilgrim or a cloaky t3 and be carefull with picking targets.

both the fits you linked look like nice loot pinatas to me.
you will lose it to the first gate camp you hit.

going solo through null unscouted without a cloack in a cruiser size hull or higher is pretty much asking to be killed.


most terrifing ship? 100mn tengu/loki are a ***** to kill.
Othran
Route One
#48 - 2012-01-11 08:48:45 UTC
The one ship that 99 times out of 100 you will NOT engage solo in null is a Curse.
lollerwaffle
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2012-01-11 09:16:12 UTC
Worpout wrote:
In 0.0 you will not 1v1, you will not pvp, you will not survive.

In 0.0 you will pvppppppppppppp, and you will have to react quick, think fast and be agile. If you want to kill something as well, you need high DPS as well.

You will need to learn when to engage, when to bail; when to fly up and when to fly down, and last but not at least, how to manage and control a blob. Not your own blob, but your enemy's fleet. This is why you need the speed. Get in, shoot a fragile target and then GTFO as fast as possible. You might be successfull with kiting, but that is only if the enemy simply not burn out of point range, and warp out.

TL:DR
You need to rely on your enemy is being terribad at EVE (95%) and you don't make any mistakes.


I'm confused, how is this relevant to what the OP is actually asking, or how does it answer the OP's question? Or is it a stealth whine?

On-topic: Haven't flown in 0.0 in a long time, but from what I remember, Pilgrim, vaga, cynabal, dramiel, ranis are pretty awesome to solo in 0.0 with. Nothing that would make EVERYONE **** their pants in fear, unless you're talking about solo bhaalgorn (then said pants would run with excitement-spiced fear poo).
Todd Jaeger
Mayhem and Destruction
#50 - 2012-01-11 11:26:36 UTC
web/dps loki
ham legion
machariel
vindicator
bhaalgorn

most dangerous ships in eve.and no,dramiel is not terrifying.
Tian Nu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#51 - 2012-01-11 11:39:59 UTC
N°1 Pilgrim
That ship let you chose youre targets
N°2 Tengu 100 AB buffer tank
Is kill or by killed (once you know well youre ship you know at how much shild you need to turn the AB on and run)
N°3 Loki
Can kill the 100 AB tengu whith no problem if you use one med neut in highs most costly over 2.5 bill the right fit and implants
Sleipnir is realy nice but need cap bosters and that not always handy in 0.0
I never seen good loki fit so i post you mine :
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/507/lokitherightway.jpg/

Father O'Malley about Darius III begging for whelp: “Hows that working out for ya ? I make it 02:21 and all I see is you begging Riverini to get numbers and trying to recruit from the incursion public channel.”
Valea Silpha
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2012-01-11 12:54:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Valea Silpha
Anything with significant neuting power is always a problem for a solo ship, mainly because even if you are truely passively fit with cap-less weapons the fact that he's going shut down your mwd/ab and thus your means of escape is going to land you in a world of hurt.

Personally, I wouldn't say I fear a pilgrim particularly if I'm out in a pvp ship. Oh they are mean as hell against a lot of things, but not against a lot of solo pvp ships. The neuts hurt, but with only short range and not much dps or ehp any decent pvp ship should be able to flail at it until it goes away, particularly if you have any combination of drones, cap boosters or missiles.

While its not a really realistic ship to run into in 0.0 solo, I'd say I fear a neut fit domi above everything else. If it can get its claws into you it'll kill most anything. Full array of tackle, big-boy neuts, enough dps to pull you apart. It sucks that you don't see them much anymore. I love these things, they just don't fit in much now.

More realistically, a curse is always a terrible idea to fight solo. Long range neuts are a way different prospect to the pilgrim.

A little more out of left field, a widow is a MEAN thing to have to fight. Jammers and like ... 1300 dps ? Ouch man. Ouch. But sadly that ONLY works 1vs1.
Kiran
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2012-01-13 14:57:58 UTC
A well flown Hurricane or Vagabond.

I know people are going to laugh at this, but they are easy to train for and realtivly easy to get hold of. And if flown well can be very tough nuts to crack.

And the only ship I fear the most is the one with the cyno. You never know whats going to jump into system with you when they pop.
OldMan Gana
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#54 - 2012-01-13 15:30:38 UTC
Borun Tal wrote:
Sorry, what?

1v1 in null?

Um, what's that?!?!!


Aye, was thinking the same myself mate. Where is this mystical land of null sec 1v1 ?

Love United- Hate Glazer
OldMan Gana
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-01-13 15:32:49 UTC
Kiran wrote:
A well flown Hurricane or Vagabond.

I know people are going to laugh at this, but they are easy to train for and realtivly easy to get hold of. And if flown well can be very tough nuts to crack.

And the only ship I fear the most is the one with the cyno. You never know whats going to jump into system with you when they pop.


There's a guy who always comes into the system in a covert cynoed Arazu, he has a tag along mate in a cloaky sabre.
You can set your watches by them two.

Love United- Hate Glazer
Ravenesa
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#56 - 2012-01-13 15:58:46 UTC
Jumping on the Pilgram train, though I add that it is much better in lowsec if you can find systems with people in them. As a rule I avoid missle ships and other heavy drone boats, but once you get something locked down and neuted with a Pilgrim, it is a waiting game. I enough tagging battleships in particular, a slow painful death leads to some wonderful raging, threats, and chat logs that bring laughs on our corp forums.

A Pilgy can fit a few neuts, cloak, combo armor tank, and an expanded probe launcher which works well for the cruiser+ sized targets I like to go after. Due to it's low DPS I prefer not to fight if I come across a larger target ratting in belts, never know how long it may take to kill them and I have no problems with getting NPC help when killing someone. I once chased a Zealot over 80km cloaked because he was scrammed by some elite frigs and did not have pulse lasers fit to hit them. He whined hard core when I popped up next to him.
Diomidis
Pod Liberation Authority
#57 - 2012-01-13 21:07:09 UTC
The Titan pre-DD nerf?
That a silly thread to reach this many replies, and why is "0.0" important in this question???

"War does not determine who is right - only who is left." -- Bertrand Russell

Kn1v3s 999
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2012-01-15 11:08:42 UTC
Btw all this rants about solo and 1vs1 in null.
Just get the **** out of your jew 0.0 space and you will find them.
Lownah
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2012-01-15 14:45:40 UTC
A Bhaalgorn on hostile station undocks is just about the scariest thing to try engage alone, imo.
Reppyk
The Black Shell
#60 - 2012-01-15 15:40:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Reppyk
A widow.

You know there is one somewhere, maybe near you. Maybe not.
I'm not even speaking about the possibility of a cyno, but in 1v1, the ship could just watch you, waiting a bit to see your ~pitiful~ dps, then jam you. And if the widow doesnt want to kill you, he will just slowboat cloaked somewhere else while singing "trolololol" in local.

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