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Ginnie
Doomheim
#21 - 2016-02-08 17:31:05 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
I was balldeep in the Russian Drone Wars, which meant lots of hostiles so not many "Non-PvP" gameplay there. So while we didn't have fleets up and if it was too hostile to do something, I just launched a 2nd client, logged in my RvB alt and went beserk on him. All at the same time I would keep 0.0 comms running, so the moment I heard that "faeces was hitting a rotating object" there, docked the RvB character and switched to my main.

I've never waited for something to finish in EVE that wouldn't let me play.


This is a great example, but sort of supports the OP. While waiting for your null sec corp to log in and fleet up for some PVP, you switched over to your alt to work on other stuff.

I was once in a High Sec player corp that was war dec'd. We were told to stay docked up and wait for the war to end, but I got impatient and fitted a rookie ship with a cloak and had the other corp chase me around for hours! It was fun on the bun...

But, if I had done what I was told, then I would have been bored out of my mind!

Unless you are in a very active corp, then it can get boring being in a player corp. That's why I prefer NPC corps. If I am going to mission, rat and/or explore by myself anyways, then I would prefer to not be war dec'd...

It sounds plausible enough tonight, but wait until tomorrow. Wait for the common sense of the morning.

ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2016-02-09 00:04:40 UTC
Ginnie wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
I was balldeep in the Russian Drone Wars, which meant lots of hostiles so not many "Non-PvP" gameplay there. So while we didn't have fleets up and if it was too hostile to do something, I just launched a 2nd client, logged in my RvB alt and went beserk on him. All at the same time I would keep 0.0 comms running, so the moment I heard that "faeces was hitting a rotating object" there, docked the RvB character and switched to my main.

I've never waited for something to finish in EVE that wouldn't let me play.


This is a great example, but sort of supports the OP. While waiting for your null sec corp to log in and fleet up for some PVP, you switched over to your alt to work on other stuff.

I was once in a High Sec player corp that was war dec'd. We were told to stay docked up and wait for the war to end, but I got impatient and fitted a rookie ship with a cloak and had the other corp chase me around for hours! It was fun on the bun...

But, if I had done what I was told, then I would have been bored out of my mind!

Unless you are in a very active corp, then it can get boring being in a player corp. That's why I prefer NPC corps. If I am going to mission, rat and/or explore by myself anyways, then I would prefer to not be war dec'd...

I think that the main point is that in Eve the players create most of the content unlike other games that are heavily scripted in which the Devs create and spoon feed the linear progression of "content".

I don't want to speak for J'Poll but my impression was he was more making the point that you create your own content in this game or you are waiting for someone else to create it for you but the game won't spoon feed it to you.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#23 - 2016-02-09 00:22:06 UTC
Ginnie wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
I was balldeep in the Russian Drone Wars, which meant lots of hostiles so not many "Non-PvP" gameplay there. So while we didn't have fleets up and if it was too hostile to do something, I just launched a 2nd client, logged in my RvB alt and went beserk on him. All at the same time I would keep 0.0 comms running, so the moment I heard that "faeces was hitting a rotating object" there, docked the RvB character and switched to my main.

I've never waited for something to finish in EVE that wouldn't let me play.


This is a great example, but sort of supports the OP. While waiting for your null sec corp to log in and fleet up for some PVP, you switched over to your alt to work on other stuff.

I was once in a High Sec player corp that was war dec'd. We were told to stay docked up and wait for the war to end, but I got impatient and fitted a rookie ship with a cloak and had the other corp chase me around for hours! It was fun on the bun...

But, if I had done what I was told, then I would have been bored out of my mind!

Unless you are in a very active corp, then it can get boring being in a player corp. That's why I prefer NPC corps. If I am going to mission, rat and/or explore by myself anyways, then I would prefer to not be war dec'd...


The issue is, there is never a reason to wait.

Yeah, I used an alt.

Mainly cause I couldn't stand half of the Coalition FCs. So I was very picky on when I "was there".

Usually there were fleets up in nullsec about 18h a day. I just didnt join the ones that were lead by some egocentric maniac that took EVE way to serious (some FCs actually demanded people to report in sick at work to play EVE Lol)


A active and properly ran corp can be very good at keeping you entertained.
And now a days there are even plenty of communities that run public fleets/events.


So, again, if you are sitting there waiting, you are doing something horribly wrong.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#24 - 2016-02-09 00:24:19 UTC
ergherhdfgh wrote:
Ginnie wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
I was balldeep in the Russian Drone Wars, which meant lots of hostiles so not many "Non-PvP" gameplay there. So while we didn't have fleets up and if it was too hostile to do something, I just launched a 2nd client, logged in my RvB alt and went beserk on him. All at the same time I would keep 0.0 comms running, so the moment I heard that "faeces was hitting a rotating object" there, docked the RvB character and switched to my main.

I've never waited for something to finish in EVE that wouldn't let me play.


This is a great example, but sort of supports the OP. While waiting for your null sec corp to log in and fleet up for some PVP, you switched over to your alt to work on other stuff.

I was once in a High Sec player corp that was war dec'd. We were told to stay docked up and wait for the war to end, but I got impatient and fitted a rookie ship with a cloak and had the other corp chase me around for hours! It was fun on the bun...

But, if I had done what I was told, then I would have been bored out of my mind!

Unless you are in a very active corp, then it can get boring being in a player corp. That's why I prefer NPC corps. If I am going to mission, rat and/or explore by myself anyways, then I would prefer to not be war dec'd...

I think that the main point is that in Eve the players create most of the content unlike other games that are heavily scripted in which the Devs create and spoon feed the linear progression of "content".

I don't want to speak for J'Poll but my impression was he was more making the point that you create your own content in this game or you are waiting for someone else to create it for you but the game won't spoon feed it to you.



Luckily you dont speak for me, you are way to nice on the forums.


Need to train Adv. Sarcasm to 5 first before you can apply to be my spokesperson.



But yeah, basically what I meant, EVE ia what YOU make of it. So if you make it a waiting game, you will wait.

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Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2016-02-09 07:13:18 UTC
J'Poll wrote:


Need to train Adv. Sarcasm to 5 first before you can apply to be my spokesperson.


Don't forget quadruple posting 5 either!


P

Grrr.

Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2016-02-09 16:31:14 UTC
Azda Ja wrote:
J'Poll wrote:


Need to train Adv. Sarcasm to 5 first before you can apply to be my spokesperson.


Don't forget quadruple posting 5 either!


P

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Pandora Carrollon
Provi Rapid Response
#27 - 2016-02-09 18:53:38 UTC
The local pirate brigades hate it when I have 'wait' time available.
Jacques d'Orleans
#28 - 2016-02-09 19:31:56 UTC
Cade Connelly wrote:
How much of this game is actually just waiting?

Waiting for skills to finish, for fleets to form, sales to go through...

In short, how much of my time would be spent just staring at my ship while it orbits something or spins in a station?


Create your own content, simple as that.
The other posters have already given some good advice, which you can use as a guideline.

If not done already, do the career agents, they also give you some ships and skillbooks.
And do all of them, you get some really decent starter ships like the Venture which you can take to mine some roids, to get some money for the start.
For the beginning you also could run some lvl 1 Missions from some local agents, to find agents use the Agent finder in the NeoCom.
You can run the SoE Bloodstained Stars epic story arc.
Also highly adviced is EVE Uni's wiki for deeper infos abbout EVE and yes you can also join them.

Avvy
Doomheim
#29 - 2016-02-09 20:19:24 UTC
How much of the game is waiting?

That depends on you, I've been waiting 7 months so far.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2016-02-09 23:04:52 UTC
There is an update, you don't need to wait for skills to finish anymore, just inject the required skillpoints and your done.

I'm my own NPC alt.

Ragnar Blackthorn
Doomheim
#31 - 2016-02-10 12:24:46 UTC
The developers adding Skill Injectors acknowledges that waiting is a problem and buying SP is the solution, they even said in the dev blog that the injectors are aimed at new players.
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#32 - 2016-02-10 14:34:08 UTC
Cade Connelly wrote:
How much of this game is actually just waiting?

Waiting for skills to finish, for fleets to form, sales to go through...

In short, how much of my time would be spent just staring at my ship while it orbits something or spins in a station?

You will spend no time (that's zero as in not one single second) waiting for skills unless you choose to do it. There is ALWAYS something you could be doing in game with the skills you have while the time passes till that next train finishes, so if you are ship spinning waiting that is your fault and not a problem with the training system.
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