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Ganking alleged AFK miners in Hi-Sec 0.5 - 1.0

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Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#81 - 2016-02-07 20:47:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Teckos Pech
Bella Jennie wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Your stuff → my hangar. Stat.


nah.. and I got a lotta stuff!

just cancelled all my accounts and it feels so good!

I kind of put it on CCP Falcon's attitude as my reason for quitting:

".. CCP refuses to balance HISEC

CCP clearly favors the gankers & griefers

Screw CCP Falcon and his "dark, gritty and unsafe anywhere" universe..
He should realize he's a developer, NOT a player. .."


and hey, if they fix HISEC, I may come back..


So you found that post by CCP Falcon. I told you so. Lol

And you're right it does feel good you cancelled all your accounts.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#82 - 2016-02-07 21:13:09 UTC
Bella Jennie wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Your stuff → my hangar. Stat.


nah.. and I got a lotta stuff!

just cancelled all my accounts and it feels so good!

I kind of put it on CCP Falcon's attitude as my reason for quitting:

".. CCP refuses to balance HISEC

CCP clearly favors the gankers & griefers

Screw CCP Falcon and his "dark, gritty and unsafe anywhere" universe..
He should realize he's a developer, NOT a player. .."


and hey, if they fix HISEC, I may come back..


Now, to proof you are leaving...

All your charactes, put them in Doomheim in the next 10 hours.

Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy

Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#83 - 2016-02-07 21:13:57 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Bella Jennie wrote:
nah.. and I got a lotta stuff!

just cancelled all my accounts and it feels so good!

So… Your stuff → my hangar. Stat.
I mean, you explicitly said that you're not coming back, so it's not as if you're going to miss it. At least I can put the stuff to good use.

Quote:
and hey, if they fix HISEC, I may come back..
Since they have no intention to ever break highsec the way you want, you won't be coming back. Hence why you should hand over your stuff. Your stated reason for quitting is just incoherent nonsense anyway, so it's not like anyone at CCP will see you as anything but a lost cause.


Tippia.

You of all forum posters should know.


ALL stuffz of people rage quitting belong to UaE.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#84 - 2016-02-07 21:17:34 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Tippia.

You of all forum posters should know.


ALL stuffz of people rage quitting belong to UaE.

Pff. Greedy <-bleeep->. Leave some for the rest of us. 😤
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#85 - 2016-02-07 21:38:06 UTC
Bella Jennie wrote:
just cancelled all my accounts and it feels so good!

The game isn't for everyone.

Good that you realised that rather than hanging on like others do, whinging all the time.

Hope you find a different game that suits your view of things.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#86 - 2016-02-07 21:38:53 UTC
Hal Morsh wrote:
Poddington Bare wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
A whole can of varied crazy.


You've cried so hard your eyes are actually bleeding.


Don't intice the vampires. They've gotta be hiding somewhere.

Shocked
*whistles inconspicuously*
Nitshe Razvedka
#87 - 2016-02-08 02:54:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Nitshe Razvedka
Pix Severus wrote:
Michel Petit wrote:
Why does CCP condone and encourage this activity?


CCP don't encourage it, in fact they've made several nerfs to it over the years to make it more difficult.

You'd think they would encourage it though, seeing as players who are ganked in highsec are more likely to stay subbed to the game.

Edit: Just saw your lossmail, ouch! I'm sure you won't make that mistake again.



This stat from Eve 15 is often quoted by window-licker gankers to justifie their base gameplay. Lets break down the statistics: sample drawn from new players killed in first 15 days of game. Hardly the demographic of the majority of people ganked mining in hisec. Nor the demographic of freighter pilots harvested macro style for profit.

If you break down the average gankers KB, they are individuals lacking basic pvp skills. Hoping to maintain their poor self esteem by attacking the most defenceless targets. Like street junkies attacking the elderly. Knowing if they fleeted up in null they would have their buts handed to them.

Eve needs more qualitative and quantitative research of their masses of data. Not throwaway lines to make special needs gankers feel good about their hapless skills.

Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.

Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.

Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#88 - 2016-02-08 03:05:35 UTC
Michel Petit wrote:
Outright lawlessness is allowed in low and null sec. Why can't we keep these activities there?

Folks mine in Hi-Sec believing it to be safer than low or null. It should be..


Everywhere is lawless when you're undocked.
Hisec has automatic inescapable consequences.
Lowsec has automatic consequences that can be avoided or dealt with using tags and understanding gate/station guns.
Nullsec has avoidable consequences that require dealing with players, political groups and their influence.
But you knew all that, right?
You really want hisec to be a place where crowds of people can afk scratch up peanuts and chump change.
If so, you are the enemy of space adventure and really do require surprise ammo donations.



Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.

Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#89 - 2016-02-08 03:09:50 UTC
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
If you break down the average gankers KB, they are individuals lacking basic pvp skills. Hoping to maintain their poor self esteem by attacking the most defenceless targets. Like street junkies attacking the elderly. Knowing if they fleeted up in null they would have their buts handed to them..


Average ganker is actually an alt of someone in a null alliance, i do believe.
Hisec freighter and miner destruction is done for profit.
The really cruel toxic kiddies you have them confused with don't have long careers in EvE, they stay as long as you whine.



Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.

Nitshe Razvedka
#90 - 2016-02-08 03:14:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Nitshe Razvedka
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
If you break down the average gankers KB, they are individuals lacking basic pvp skills. Hoping to maintain their poor self esteem by attacking the most defenceless targets. Like street junkies attacking the elderly. Knowing if they fleeted up in null they would have their buts handed to them..


Average ganker is actually an alt of someone in a null alliance, i do believe.
Hisec freighter and miner destruction is done for profit.
The really cruel toxic kiddies you have them confused with don't have long careers in EvE, they stay as long as you whine.






I stated facts, you had a special needs whiny cry. Big difference you drop-kick.

Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.

Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.

Jacques d'Orleans
#91 - 2016-02-08 03:16:52 UTC
Bella Jennie wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Your stuff → my hangar. Stat.


nah.. and I got a lotta stuff!

just cancelled all my accounts and it feels so good!

I kind of put it on CCP Falcon's attitude as my reason for quitting:

".. CCP refuses to balance HISEC

CCP clearly favors the gankers & griefers

Screw CCP Falcon and his "dark, gritty and unsafe anywhere" universe..
He should realize he's a developer, NOT a player. .."


and hey, if they fix HISEC, I may come back..



Hello Kitty---->over there
Nitshe Razvedka
#92 - 2016-02-08 03:23:42 UTC
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:
Bella Jennie wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Your stuff → my hangar. Stat.


nah.. and I got a lotta stuff!

just cancelled all my accounts and it feels so good!

I kind of put it on CCP Falcon's attitude as my reason for quitting:

".. CCP refuses to balance HISEC

CCP clearly favors the gankers & griefers

Screw CCP Falcon and his "dark, gritty and unsafe anywhere" universe..
He should realize he's a developer, NOT a player. .."


and hey, if they fix HISEC, I may come back..



Hello Kitty---->over there


Show the people your tramp stamp "owned b-I-t-c-h, property of CODE", does you James315 licence give you high self esteem?

Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.

Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.

Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#93 - 2016-02-08 03:34:20 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Bella Jennie wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Your stuff → my hangar. Stat.


nah.. and I got a lotta stuff!

just cancelled all my accounts and it feels so good!

I kind of put it on CCP Falcon's attitude as my reason for quitting:

".. CCP refuses to balance HISEC

CCP clearly favors the gankers & griefers

Screw CCP Falcon and his "dark, gritty and unsafe anywhere" universe..
He should realize he's a developer, NOT a player. .."


and hey, if they fix HISEC, I may come back..


So you found that post by CCP Falcon. I told you so. Lol

And you're right it does feel good you cancelled all your accounts.

Falcons opinion is terribad. Reeks of bias and ignorance of the mechanics of ganking. I read "work" and "effort" in his sentence about ganking I lolled. either he doesnt play EvE or he plays too much EvE.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#94 - 2016-02-08 04:03:16 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
last paragraph describes null perfectly.

…aside from the complete safety and having to be at your computer most of the time. As the long tradition of AFK piloting (and the shock on the exceedingly rare occasions when it has bad consequences) in highsec shows, it's more a description of that part of space than anything.


EvE will never be a real PvP game until local chat in null goes away.
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#95 - 2016-02-08 04:11:13 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Bella Jennie wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Your stuff → my hangar. Stat.


nah.. and I got a lotta stuff!

just cancelled all my accounts and it feels so good!

I kind of put it on CCP Falcon's attitude as my reason for quitting:

".. CCP refuses to balance HISEC

CCP clearly favors the gankers & griefers

Screw CCP Falcon and his "dark, gritty and unsafe anywhere" universe..
He should realize he's a developer, NOT a player. .."


and hey, if they fix HISEC, I may come back..


So you found that post by CCP Falcon. I told you so. Lol

And you're right it does feel good you cancelled all your accounts.

Falcons opinion is terribad. Reeks of bias and ignorance of the mechanics of ganking. I read "work" and "effort" in his sentence about ganking I lolled. either he doesnt play EvE or he plays too much EvE.


You know what, I can't wait for you to cancel your remaining accounts and post some whine good bye rant.

Let me see, when ganking was actually easier PCU was going up!

Now that ganking is harder PCU is lower.

Coincidence? Possibly, but I don't think so. You and your ilk are a carbuncle on the EVE player base. The sooner you are gone (like dear Bella) the better.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

Jacques d'Orleans
#96 - 2016-02-08 04:18:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Jacques d'Orleans
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
If you break down the average gankers KB, they are individuals lacking basic pvp skills. Hoping to maintain their poor self esteem by attacking the most defenceless targets. Like street junkies attacking the elderly. Knowing if they fleeted up in null they would have their buts handed to them..


Well, when someone is talking about the KB's of others he should be prepared to show his own. Ah, i forgot you don't have one, because your just a forum alt, which means that you don't even have the self esteem to post with your main and then you have the chuzpa to talk about others assumed "low self esteem". Seriously?
Also it would be fine, when you're talking about the PvP skills of others, to show us yours in form of a KB, ah sorry, i forgot you're just a forum warrioring blatherer.
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#97 - 2016-02-08 04:20:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Chopper Rollins
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
If you break down the average gankers KB, they are individuals lacking basic pvp skills. Hoping to maintain their poor self esteem by attacking the most defenceless targets. Like street junkies attacking the elderly. Knowing if they fleeted up in null they would have their buts handed to them..


Average ganker is actually an alt of someone in a null alliance, i do believe.
Hisec freighter and miner destruction is done for profit.
The really cruel toxic kiddies you have them confused with don't have long careers in EvE, they stay as long as you whine.






I stated facts, you had a special needs whiny cry. Big difference you drop-kick.


I didn't challenge your facts, the average ganker you refer to is an alt, so their KB won't yield much leetism.
The personal insults, towards gankers in general and me in particular, show how much you are upset though, i can't work out why. Maybe because you're getting well hit by people you can't work against. Whatever.

Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.

Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#98 - 2016-02-08 04:38:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Teckos Pech wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Bella Jennie wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Your stuff → my hangar. Stat.


nah.. and I got a lotta stuff!

just cancelled all my accounts and it feels so good!

I kind of put it on CCP Falcon's attitude as my reason for quitting:

".. CCP refuses to balance HISEC

CCP clearly favors the gankers & griefers

Screw CCP Falcon and his "dark, gritty and unsafe anywhere" universe..
He should realize he's a developer, NOT a player. .."


and hey, if they fix HISEC, I may come back..


So you found that post by CCP Falcon. I told you so. Lol

And you're right it does feel good you cancelled all your accounts.

Falcons opinion is terribad. Reeks of bias and ignorance of the mechanics of ganking. I read "work" and "effort" in his sentence about ganking I lolled. either he doesnt play EvE or he plays too much EvE.


You know what, I can't wait for you to cancel your remaining accounts and post some whine good bye rant.

Let me see, when ganking was actually easier PCU was going up!

Now that ganking is harder PCU is lower.

Coincidence? Possibly, but I don't think so. You and your ilk are a carbuncle on the EVE player base. The sooner you are gone (like dear Bella) the better.

the original EvE subscribers such as myself are the reason EvE exists. We signed to an EvE that was harsh abd relatively balanced. we populated EvE and played it the way it was designed to be played. one of the defining things about us originals is we prefered EvE harsh. any changes that make it easy or risk free we dislike. getting a real non-consentual kill in EvE should always take effort and risk. ganking in that sense is anti-EvE and ill forever oppose it.

the reason pcu is low is because we have wow stained devs directing devepment instead of eve devs.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#99 - 2016-02-08 05:19:28 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Falcons opinion is terribad. Reeks of bias and ignorance of the mechanics of ganking. I read "work" and "effort" in his sentence about ganking I lolled. either he doesnt play EvE or he plays too much EvE.

How is it terribad that he explains a core design principle of the game — one that has been in place from the very start? What mechanics is he ignorant of?

Infinity Ziona wrote:
The original EvE subscribers such as myself are the reason EvE exists. We signed to an EvE that was harsh abd relatively balanced.
So why are you so adamant that it be made unbalanced and safe? Why do you constantly argue against the original design of the game? Why do you keep wanting to make it easy and risk-free?

Quote:
the reason pcu is low is because we have wow stained devs directing devepment instead of eve devs.
Do you have any examples of this? And if that's the mechanism behind the PCU, why are you arguing in the exact opposite direction — for more WoWification? Why do you want the numbers to be become even lower?

How did it take more effort and risk to gank at a time when ships were more fragile and when the punishments were minimal to non-existent? I know you're just lying about this because that what you always do, but you could you at least explain the insane and twisted logic behind your lie?
Ezzemiah Delma
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#100 - 2016-02-08 05:19:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Ezzemiah Delma
I put my money on that if some day CCP goes full ****** and decide to ban highsec ganking, the next thing miners will complain will be about us "canflippers". I can already see it:

"Players who take stuff from other player's cans or shoot their anchorables without the player's consent, should have their weapons become unable to fire and their drones unable to launch, and have to endure the wrath of the angry players whom they 'stole from'."

Because, you know, carebear apologists will never be satisfied until highsec is completely and 100% safe. They want to turn out beloved game into a theme park.

I heard there's this theme park game where you can pay 15 bucks a month and choose to play on a fully PVE server... a world where other players don't bother you. It looks like you belong there, OP.

One more nerf™