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Ganking alleged AFK miners in Hi-Sec 0.5 - 1.0

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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#61 - 2016-02-07 12:51:37 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
made around 20 billion for two deaths
Wow, that sucks. My alt has made over 100 billion in highsec and has never died once. So either you're lying, or you're wrong.

im from 2003 I probably made trillions in highsec, low, null, WHs since 2003. All safety-free unlike ganking. i was however speaking ofbduring my Is Null More Profitable Than High experiment.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#62 - 2016-02-07 12:55:33 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
All safety-free unlike ganking.
That's because safeties weren't implemented until a few years ago.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#63 - 2016-02-07 13:06:36 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
made around 20 billion for two deaths
Wow, that sucks. My alt has made over 100 billion in highsec and has never died once. So either you're lying, or you're wrong.

im from 2003 I probably made trillions in highsec, low, null, WHs since 2003. All safety-free unlike ganking. i was however speaking ofbduring my Is Null More Profitable Than High experiment.
You started 6 months before I did. So please stop with the whole 2003 BS. I don't care about your biased view. The fact of the matter is I made far more doing very little in high sec, whilst you died twice making less in null.

So you're either lying, or you're wrong. Which is it?

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#64 - 2016-02-07 13:19:29 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Which is it?

why not both

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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#65 - 2016-02-07 13:29:15 UTC
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It should be.


No, it shouldn't. High security space means only a single thing; CONCORD will whoop the ass of anyone who attacks you. The higher the security status, the faster the response. But it will always be a response, they will never prevent aggression before it happens. The only thing that should be improved is the communication to new players that this is how things work and that high sec is very much not a 100% safe place. The rest is up to you.

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Black Mount Industrial
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#66 - 2016-02-07 13:36:52 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
A whole can of varied crazy.


You've cried so hard your eyes are actually bleeding.
J'Poll
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Caldari State
#67 - 2016-02-07 13:41:56 UTC
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#68 - 2016-02-07 13:42:47 UTC
Why was the OP solo mining in a hulk?

It's a poor choice for solo work, while it may have the highest base yield of the exhumers and barges, the limited, rapidly filled, ore bay and the poor defences indicate that it is intended to be used with fleet support such as an Orca; which provides additional ore storage and if fitted properly can be utilised to increase both the yield and tank of fleet members.

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#69 - 2016-02-07 13:56:56 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Why was the OP solo mining in a hulk?

It's a poor choice for solo work, while it may have the highest base yield of the exhumers and barges, the limited, rapidly filled, ore bay and the poor defences indicate that it is intended to be used with fleet support such as an Orca; which provides additional ore storage and if fitted properly can be utilised to increase both the yield and tank of fleet members.


It has 3 lazor slots and is super cool! You can't math away cool old friend.

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#70 - 2016-02-07 14:06:27 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Which is it?

why not both
I have a feeling it is, but I'm giving him an out. P

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Red Galaxy
#71 - 2016-02-07 14:16:19 UTC
Poasting in a duplicate, redundant thread.

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Lugh Crow-Slave
#72 - 2016-02-07 14:20:57 UTC
Michel Petit wrote:


Folks mine in Hi-Sec believing it to be safer than low or null. It should be.



This mentality right here is why.


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#73 - 2016-02-07 14:21:29 UTC
I sexually identify as a suicide Catalyst, and OP is not wanting me to live my life as I desire. I come to the sandbox here in EVE where I can express myself in my truest form.

Welcome to the Sandbox OP, might I interest you in a mining permit ? Since you apparently didn't have one in high sec and well, suffered the consequences.
Bella Jennie
Doomheim
#74 - 2016-02-07 19:16:50 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
there could be several reasons for it but first a brief history:

When EvE released ganking was controlled but as weapons and ships were upgraded it hecame possible to oneshot the odd ship now and then. CCP was pretty quick to rebuffer or buff to stamp it out.

Nullsec was pretty dangerous and low was very dangerous. highsec was relatively safe in comparison. As Oveur the lead dev at the time stated "hghsec is supposed to be relatively safe".

At some stage CCP and the null sec people began to breach the cardinal rule of not only game development but virtually every competitive based business in the world and began mixing business with pleasure. they began hiring from their own customer base, interacting in game inside corporations and alliances, resulting in highly biased development decisions (which ultimately led to the goons taking over all of EvE, including forums and CSM) and devs dropping game changing items (miner 2 bpo etc)'.

by now the game was incurably corrupted. any reasoning to rebalance it was shouted down on forums or locked by a goon. after a while everyone who cared either left the game, was too intimidated to post on forums or just accepted the status quo.

possible reasons they wont fix it:

1: stacked CSM full of null sec people
2: devs too scared to change it fearing goons might unsub for a month dropping income by 99%
3: game is just too FUBAR now. when you have destroyers and crusiers doing battleship dps and costing almost nothing how do you stop ganking?



Have been going around the Forums and came across the post above...
- this is something I have always felt...

That post and reading CCP Falcon's extremist views on gameplay have convinced me to quit...

I'll check back every now and then to see if they fix HISEC the right way..

Have fun..

this game currently favors the DOUCHEBAGS
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#75 - 2016-02-07 19:19:37 UTC
Bella Jennie wrote:
Have been going around the Forums and came across the post above...
- this is something I have always felt...

That post and reading CCP Falcon's extremist views on gameplay have convinced me to quit...

I'll check back every now and then to see if they fix HISEC the right way..

Have fun..

Your stuff → my hangar. Stat.
Bella Jennie
Doomheim
#76 - 2016-02-07 19:40:34 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Your stuff → my hangar. Stat.


nah.. and I got a lotta stuff!

just cancelled all my accounts and it feels so good!

I kind of put it on CCP Falcon's attitude as my reason for quitting:

".. CCP refuses to balance HISEC

CCP clearly favors the gankers & griefers

Screw CCP Falcon and his "dark, gritty and unsafe anywhere" universe..
He should realize he's a developer, NOT a player. .."


and hey, if they fix HISEC, I may come back..

this game currently favors the DOUCHEBAGS
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#77 - 2016-02-07 19:54:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Bella Jennie wrote:
nah.. and I got a lotta stuff!

just cancelled all my accounts and it feels so good!

So… Your stuff → my hangar. Stat.
I mean, you explicitly said that you're not coming back, so it's not as if you're going to miss it. At least I can put the stuff to good use.

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and hey, if they fix HISEC, I may come back..
Since they have no intention to ever break highsec the way you want, you won't be coming back. Hence why you should hand over your stuff. Your stated reason for quitting is just incoherent nonsense anyway, so it's not like anyone at CCP will see you as anything but a lost cause.
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#78 - 2016-02-07 19:56:05 UTC
Poddington Bare wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
A whole can of varied crazy.


You've cried so hard your eyes are actually bleeding.


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Azn Empire
#79 - 2016-02-07 20:03:23 UTC
Bellend Jennie wrote:
just cancelled all my accounts and it feels so good!
You're right about that at least, it does feel good. Thanks. Big smile

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Paper Cats
#80 - 2016-02-07 20:39:31 UTC
Bella Jennie wrote:

".. CCP refuses to balance HISEC

CCP clearly favors the gankers & griefers


Balance begins with the player. You can choose to operate in such a way as to make being ganked uneconomical (and difficult). Or you can autopilot/afk/anti-tank.

I would say that if anything, CCP favours the miners, missioners and haulers of hisec... if they use the tools available.