EVE General Discussion

I believe they should do away with the NPC corps so those who decide to drop corp when I wardec them have nowhere to run.

There is put out a valid point in this discussion.

Note the diffrence between npc corporations and starter corporations. Scammers are using the starter corporations to circumvent the law against scamming in starter systems. Since its impossible to know if that new guy is in the starter system or not when beeing scammed in the starter corporation. What is the chance the new guy will report this, instead of just quit the game after reciving such a bad introduction to the game? Pretty low imo.

Alot of New players recives items from ccp, to start them off in their New eden career. If sold they can have anything from 100 to 500 mill of starter value, depending on what and how they enter the game. If a newer pilot decides to buy a plex, thats another 1.2 billion isk. I think this is exploiting the New, and as a result is hurting ccp alot. Especially if theres no big red sign at the front door, teaching them that they will be vicimized as soon as they enter this game :)

Personally I think Starter Corporations should be as starter systems when it comes to protecting the new.

Nah, starter corporations are chock-full of rich veterans. The Center For Advanced Studies, the corp my latest alt is part of, has over 1 million members. Most of those of course are inactive, but many others of those million are, or are alts of, rich veteran players like me. Why should they get to be isolated from intended game play?

If you want to isolate new players from part of the intended gameplay of this game in order to "save the newbies", then you need make sure you are indeed only isolating new players. The starter corporations are largely not new players and thus not the way to try to give safety to new players.

I think the status quo where the scammers themselves are responsible for not messing with new players works well enough. Just like it is perfectly fine to gank a 2-year old character mining in a starter system (in fact doing so is one of the highest forms of altruism in this game as it protects the share of limited resources there for the true new player), it is perfectly fine to scam a 2-year-old player still residing in the starter corp.

That's not circumventing anything, and it's not a valid point.

The rule goes against engaging in that activity in the rookie systems, or the rookie system local chat. Nothing more, nothing less.




Citation needed for that obvious lie.

They themselves have studied new player retention, and scamming damn sure wasn't mentioned about people quitting.

Newbie scams are the best scams. Scamming is a great way to make billions of ISK, and newbies appreciate it far more than the vets. Also, as one scams, they come to realize the game is more fun when playing against other players, as opposed to "questing" (not very much fun relatively speaking, and imho). I say encourage it.

There are substantial differences between the various new player corps. Some are full of scammers and people seemingly attempting to mislead the new players at every turn. Others are genuinely helpful and even have vets with alts organising fleet ops for new players.