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An Appeal for Diplomacy - Minmatar Militia

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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#21 - 2016-02-05 05:00:26 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:


The State embraces the concept of charitable donation.

What's the tax write off for that? Because at this point, I think she's not paying taxes anymore.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#22 - 2016-02-05 06:36:44 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
The State embraces the concept of charitable donation.

What's the tax write off for that? Because at this point, I think she's not paying taxes anymore.


I believe that under State tax law, one third of the fair market value of the charitable donation may be deducted from investment gains, so long as the gain is not converted into a loss and no more than half of the gain in any year is offset, carrying forward any unused fair market value for use against future investment gains, subject to the same limitations as the present year, up to five years from the year in which the charitable donation was realized.

Per Valerie's remarkable treatise on surviving in the jungle, it is possible to sell the fair market value of your charitable donation to a third party at a discount on the expected deferment of investment gain, allowing the third party to realize the spread between the discount and the deduction - said spread being recognized as income in each year for which some of the acquired charitable donation is used to offset investment gains - subject to the same limitations which might apply should you choose to offset your own gains.

Several Caldari mega-corporations provide charitable donation bundling services, allowing investors expecting to realize significant gains to acquire packages of charitable donations that might be used to reduce tax exposure.

A few Caldari hedge managers offer charitable donation derivative indexes tied to the performance of investment companies that acquire packaged donations, permitting wealthy clients to either realize gains or loses on the portfolio in accordance with their tactical needs at the time of realization.

However, I do not recommend doing business with Caldari hedge funds. Their profitability tends to be inflated by excessive fee structures and predatory advice given to selected clients.
Kalo Askold
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2016-02-07 08:59:29 UTC
For pyre in the amarr warzone there was no determination, only out spending your enemies. Now you are in another warzone and failing with that same tactic. In short go jettison yourself.
Jev North
Doomheim
#24 - 2016-02-07 15:56:26 UTC
Ignoring the whole "ISK to win" idiocy -- my take-away from this is that our honored opponents were either too incompetent to make any ISK despite consistently being in reward tiers III-IV, or unwilling to spend any.

Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.

Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#25 - 2016-02-07 16:02:29 UTC
Honestly can't recall having faced off with Pyre flying anything particularly expensive. Normal T1 vessels with normal decent fits. I didn't face them often, but I mostly saw Kestrels, Ruptures, that sort of thing. Hardly particularly expensive.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#26 - 2016-02-07 16:40:55 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Honestly can't recall having faced off with Pyre flying anything particularly expensive. Normal T1 vessels with normal decent fits. I didn't face them often, but I mostly saw Kestrels, Ruptures, that sort of thing. Hardly particularly expensive.


In fairness, there are a few really expensive things we did use. Not all the time, of course, and a lot of it was where they filled a unique role. Usually we didn't take those far from home.

Too much obvious power on the field scares people away. That wasn't what we wanted.
Kalo Askold
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2016-02-07 17:34:47 UTC
Jev North wrote:
Ignoring the whole "ISK to win" idiocy -- my take-away from this is that our honored opponents were either too incompetent to make any ISK despite consistently being in reward tiers III-IV, or unwilling to spend any.


Nope, we just started to bring griffins and your lot docked up and practiced your out of pod warfare.
Jev North
Doomheim
#28 - 2016-02-07 17:46:50 UTC
Kalo Askold wrote:
Nope, we just started to bring griffins and your lot docked up and practiced your out of pod warfare-

Bring Griffins where, exactly?

I don't recall seeing your face anywhere near the Evati triangle in the last three months of our presence there. You weren't even among the mop-up crew come to take the systems once MinMil realized they were no longer being defended.

Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#29 - 2016-02-07 18:03:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Jev North wrote:
Kalo Askold wrote:
Nope, we just started to bring griffins and your lot docked up and practiced your out of pod warfare-

Bring Griffins where, exactly?

I don't recall seeing your face anywhere near the Evati triangle in the last three months of our presence there. You weren't even among the mop-up crew come to take the systems once MinMil realized they were no longer being defended.


She did bring large forces out sometimes, I think, when she could get the numbers. Too many to engage, at least a couple of times, but they seemed to get bored pretty fast.

They didn't actually do very much-- just a plex or two. I remember her being really noisy about it, though.
Kalo Askold
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2016-02-07 18:06:31 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Jev North wrote:
Kalo Askold wrote:
Nope, we just started to bring griffins and your lot docked up and practiced your out of pod warfare-

Bring Griffins where, exactly?

I don't recall seeing your face anywhere near the Evati triangle in the last three months of our presence there. You weren't even among the mop-up crew come to take the systems once MinMil realized they were no longer being defended.


She did bring large forces out sometimes, I think, when she could get the numbers. Too many to engage, at least a couple of times, but they seemed to get bored pretty fast.

They didn't actually do very much-- just a plex or two. I remember her being really noisy about it, though.


Better places to be, bigger people to hit, no use killing a bunch of people when they have already submitted to their fate. Might as well go pick on the rancer folks next door.
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2016-02-07 19:40:26 UTC
Min Mil can duplicate the wonderful PVP skills that helped PY-RE stomp all over you (including me at the time) if all of the below things were included in your fleets.

1) Being in a doctrine

2) Listening to the FC and not talking over them

3) Following primaries

4) Broadcasting for reps

Instead of missing two of these or more in every fleet.

Hardly pay to win, I hope you have improved.
Kalo Askold
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2016-02-07 20:17:30 UTC
Stomp no, make them dock up yes. For you it was just you running every chance you got.
ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#33 - 2016-02-07 20:38:22 UTC
Well this thread got odd quick.

Moving back to the original topic, i went with the portion of our forces that had been deployed to Insmother to hopefully let diplomatic tensions cool down, now that it appears diplomacy is working in nullsec I hope that a renewed focus on the Warzone won't mean an increase in tensions. We all fight the Amarr, some of us fight pirates and Gallente too, but that shouldn't divide us.
Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#34 - 2016-02-07 21:20:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Gosakumori Noh
ValentinaDLM wrote:
Well this thread got odd quick.

Moving back to the original topic, i went with the portion of our forces that had been deployed to Insmother to hopefully let diplomatic tensions cool down.


Perhaps that time spent in Unified Consciousness helped meld Valentina into both a fine fleet commander and a fine diplomat.

She faced down a foe (superior on paper) to maintain the sovereignty of her clan. No ships were lost in combat or the effort to realign our constellation's command nodes... though it must be said that the commander was assisted in her heroic enterprise by the brilliant (if somewhat serendipitously so) sacrifice of a Tulwar captain, who - through his cloud of debris - identified the fundamental weakness in our enemy. Furthermore, let me not forget to send special love to the logistics pilots; and, to the intrepid gate diving Tristan maestro as well.

It was an honor to launch missiles from a fine State cruiser in support of two alliances dedicated to opposing the corruption which threatens All Mankind, and I do hope that Valentina's renewed diplomatic efforts blossom into a more cooperative existence with our neighbors so that we might further that objective.

(ps. if anyone is interested in becoming a special teams guerrilla terrorist to save Mankind from eternal damnation, send me a ringy ding ding.)
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#35 - 2016-02-08 06:39:37 UTC
With the amount of black market Minmatar avocados we managed to smuggle into the Empire while in the 24IC we could afford to use expensive doctrines like tech 2 fitted Kestrels all day, everyday.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Kalo Askold
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2016-02-08 09:19:08 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
With the amount of black market Minmatar avocados we managed to smuggle into the Empire while in the 24IC we could afford to use expensive doctrines like tech 2 fitted Kestrels all day, everyday.


With the rest of min mil and amarr mil knowing you did a lot more than that.....I shall just say "uh-huh" and wish you better luck in the caldari warzone than you all have gotten.
Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#37 - 2016-02-08 17:38:58 UTC
Sweeties! Darlings! Let us not bicker over arcane doctrinal matters. These are happy days. There is Action! Adventure! Loud noises and explosions!

Why, I was exploded in Metropolis testing arcane doctrinal matters this very last night.

A Peak of Salvation rises from the mounded ruination of human vanity! All those pretty ships, all those self-important lives... with the passing of each tiny mandala Mankind moves closer to salvation. Assuming we manage to build the stairway to Heaven, of course. But I am confident! How could endless war and Jacob's climbing ladder of wreckage fail to end human misery?

The very thought of failure is ludicrous.
Maria Daphiti
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#38 - 2016-02-08 20:01:30 UTC
At this point, i think the Tribal Liberation Force needs to be renamed the Tribal Liquidation Force, what with its Blood Raiders, EoM cultists, Hek station campers, and Slave Hol.. I mean "Trustees" (sorry Madame Noh!).
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#39 - 2016-02-08 20:03:29 UTC
Remarkable how smug the loyalists got, considering their own number of undesirables over the years. Stones and glass houses, my dear.
Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#40 - 2016-02-08 20:16:12 UTC
Maria Daphiti wrote:
At this point, i think the Tribal Liberation Force needs to be renamed the Tribal Liquidation Force, what with its Blood Raiders, EoM cultists, Hek station campers, and Slave Hol.. I mean "Trustees" (sorry Madame Noh!).


Diplomacy is going swimmingly (thank you again Commander Valentina), and I have just the perfect little ice planet on the edge of space picked out for my lycanthropic Sebiestor bunny boy trust beneficiaries. I will drop a habitat at the first available opportunity, and then InterBus tickets for everyone, sweeties! Mummy would come and pick you up herself, of course, but doctrine suggests that flying large cumbersome ships out of the Emperor Family station at this time would be problematic.

When Mankind has finally climbed to the high heavens, lycanthropic Sebiestor will rule the Cluster from Thukker leviathans, all thanks to my singular vision.

Well, I suppose Nation's animated corpses will still be here. A clash of species enhancement doctrines!

Speaking of diplomacy, it occurs to me that there were industrial corporations of a Caldari bent that wanted to do business in Matari space some time ago, but were rebuffed by a certain mindset that is no longer the dominant one. I wonder if those corporations are still interested in exploring development projects?
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