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Tora Bushido for CSM 11

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Valkin Mordirc
#21 - 2016-02-02 13:42:09 UTC
Good luck Tora. Lucas is right, certainly seems a lot better than last years.


Do you plan on focusing all your efforts if you make CSM on Highsec Aggression mechanics and Wardecs? If so do you have any other idea pertaining to, or can you elaborate on;

A. Suspect Baiting, how do you feel about Suspect Baiting as a mechanic? Do you feel it allows too much freedom on the baiters side, do you feel it should lessened? Or do you think it sits fine as it is?

B. Loot Stealing, Since you do not receive a weapons timer for stealing from wrecks, it makes it very easy in Highsec to quickly snatch loot that doesn't belong, if that wreck is in docking range. Although most people will say that this is a station campers problem, I know that you understand that most actual Wardec based fights more often then not, happen near or in the undock radius, which makes ninja looting from War's a very profitable and easy thing to do. Opinions?

C. Neutral Logistics, A lot of people complain about Neutral Logi being a problem with Highsec, others argue that as soon as the Neutral Logi becomes active in a fight it is arguably in a worse situation then it would if was incorp. What are your opinions on the matter? Should Neutral Logi incur more penalties? Should it stay the same? Or should it be lessened?

D. Further detail on Ganking? Why do you think it needs to be looked at in further detail? Do you have any idea's on how to fix the issue? Is ganking itself the problem or do you feel it is bumping? Or Criminal status not incurring enough penalties to the GCC'ed Character?
#DeleteTheWeak
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#22 - 2016-02-02 14:22:52 UTC
Last year was my first attempt, still a bit green and less connection with the Eve player base. Main reason I have been more active on twitter and #tweetfleet slack this year.

Not just highsec agression. I also want to be active in lowsec industry, as that's also one of the things I do in Eve.

A. I think suspect baiting is a nice feature in Eve as it is. I personally don't like the ship swapping with an Orca/Bowhead/etc while you are suspect (if that's still possible), but am ok with it if you do it in a station.

B. Loot stealing in space is ok as it is, but I would like to see a short 5 sec timer when you do it on stations. If you sit on an undock all day and you want the easy life, that's ok, but then you also accept the down side of it, losing loot.


C. I'm ok with neutral logi as it is right now. Use neutral logi, then you go suspect and become useless for fleet fights. You take a risk and you have the option of a reward. Nice in balance.

D. Ganking takes effort and skills and anti gankers have options to not get ganked, but I want to see more pvp fights between them. Currently gankers undock, insta warp and when you see them again is on the target. No time to even have a small chance of shooting them. Not sure how to improve this yet, but it's something to look in to.

Bumping I am fine with too, unless you continue this to long. Bumping a freighter for 10-15 minutes is just annoying. Bumping preparing to gank, fine. Maybe someway to have a max bump time.... just a brainwave. BUMP FATIGUE ! Twisted

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Reluctant Deity
#23 - 2016-02-02 20:20:26 UTC
A few reasons why I won't vote for Tora:

1) A while back he declared war on my corporation on behalf of Loyal & Company. During the WD (unless I was flying a bathtub and jumped into 10 Marmites) they would run every time. Now they are at war with Loyal & Company.

2) I paid Tora 600m ISK for a week-long WD. The results were laughable.

3)
Tora Bushido wrote:
Running for CSM you do as a person, not a character you play in Eve. In real life I help people, in
Eve I want to be evil. Don't mix them up when you vote, as the real life player wants be in the CSM.


I don't think the two are so different. I'm not saying that a "pirate" in EO is a bank robber in RL, but it's part of your personality.

Vote for someone that will improve HS.

"I made this so long because I did not have time to make it shorter." ~Blaise Pascal~

Black Pedro
Mine.
#24 - 2016-02-02 20:46:15 UTC
Reluctant Deity wrote:
I don't think the two are so different. I'm not saying that a "pirate" in EO is a bank robber in RL, but it's part of your personality.

Vote for someone that will improve HS.
It seems to me that the ability to provoke such tears as are in your post is in itself a compelling reason to vote for Tora.

The whole "you are evil in the game so you must be a sociopath in real life" shtick is pretty tired. I am more than willing to consider Tora again for the job this year.

I eagerly await his CSM Watch interview.
Reluctant Deity
#25 - 2016-02-02 20:55:15 UTC
The whole tear shtick is pretty tired. I'd hardly say that my saying he was a waste of money is crying. He wasn't effective acting for me or against me (as evidenced by his crumbling alliance).

Vote for whomever you wish, but would you care to make a wager on the side?

"I made this so long because I did not have time to make it shorter." ~Blaise Pascal~

Black Pedro
Mine.
#26 - 2016-02-02 21:13:41 UTC
Reluctant Deity wrote:
The whole tear shtick is pretty tired. I'd hardly say that my saying he was a waste of money is crying. He wasn't effective acting for me or against me (as evidenced by his crumbling alliance).

Vote for whomever you wish, but would you care to make a wager on the side?

Why would I want to bet on the outcome of the CSM election?

I just want to hear what Tora has to say. I don't care about your petty, in-game dealings with this candidate or any other. If he crossed you, beat you, made you sad or whatever, it has no bearing on what Tora can bring to the table as a CSM member.

Please save your pouting for other threads more appropriate to such sentiments. This one is about what experience and platform Tora can offer to the community. If you have nothing to offer but innuendo and sore feelings, it might be best to just remain silent.
Reluctant Deity
#27 - 2016-02-02 21:21:32 UTC
Black Pedro wrote:
Reluctant Deity wrote:
The whole tear shtick is pretty tired. I'd hardly say that my saying he was a waste of money is crying. He wasn't effective acting for me or against me (as evidenced by his crumbling alliance).

Vote for whomever you wish, but would you care to make a wager on the side?

Why would I want to bet on the outcome of the CSM election?

I just want to hear what Tora has to say. I don't care about your petty, in-game dealings with this candidate or any other. If he crossed you, beat you, made you sad or whatever, it has no bearing on what Tora can bring to the table as a CSM member.

Please save your pouting for other threads more appropriate to such sentiments. This one is about what experience and platform Tora can offer to the community. If you have nothing to offer but innuendo and sore feelings, it might be best to just remain silent.

You want me to be silent while you prop him up? That's rich.

His in game behavior, good or bad has complete bearing here. If he failed to properly execute a WD that I paid for how can I expect him to do what he says as a member of the CSM.

Your argument is null and void sir.

"I made this so long because I did not have time to make it shorter." ~Blaise Pascal~

Nitshe Razvedka
#28 - 2016-02-02 22:04:31 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Last year was my first attempt, still a bit green and less connection with the Eve player base. Main reason I have been more active on twitter and #tweetfleet slack this year.


D. Ganking takes effort and skills and anti gankers have options to not get ganked, but I want to see more pvp fights between them. Currently gankers undock, insta warp and when you see them again is on the target. No time to even have a small chance of shooting them. Not sure how to improve this yet, but it's something to look in to.

Bumping I am fine with too, unless you continue this to long. Bumping a freighter for 10-15 minutes is just annoying. Bumping preparing to gank, fine. Maybe someway to have a max bump time.... just a brainwave. BUMP FATIGUE ! Twisted



Ganking is a Top-of-mind-issue for Highsec carebears.

Carebears make up the majority of voters, come up with answers before the vote. Even HoleySheet1 has answers for gankers, poach his ideas.

You are deliberately avoiding this issue and it will cost you votes.

Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.

Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.

Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2016-02-03 00:02:01 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
he doesn't panda to




Thank the Lord! Imagine if he pandered to pandas...

We would have pandered pandas. Now if we took the pandered pandas to a beauty salon...


Then you'd have pampered pandered pandas!

Leadership is something you learn. Maybe one day, you'll learn that.

Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#30 - 2016-02-03 14:26:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Tora Bushido
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Ganking is a Top-of-mind-issue for Highsec carebears. Carebears make up the majority of voters, come up with answers before the vote. Even HoleySheet1 has answers for gankers, poach his ideas. You are deliberately avoiding this issue and it will cost you votes.
You should know me well enough by now to know I am pretty direct in my communication. Holeysheet1 is a troll, even in his CSM post. And that's a big no-no to me. The CSM is a serious matter. And also everyone here who replies and complains about how evil I am as Tora from the Marmite Collective, please dont vote for me, as you still dont see the difference between real life and role play.

And I'm not going to tell gankers I will make Eve a ganking heaven, just as I wont tell Anti-gankers I will be your carebear saviour. What I am saying is, both sides should have options in Eve to counter each others moves, IF they put enough effort in it.

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Reluctant Deity
#31 - 2016-02-03 16:28:29 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
What I am saying is, both sides should have options in Eve to do damage to the others side, IF they put enough effort in it.

You are so misguided. Your so-called carebears have no desire to "do damage" to anyone.

That is so two dimensional and near-sighted of you.

The non pvp players have no desire to hurt others. They just want to play the game in their own way. To create is something you just don't understand. You force your way of gameplay onto others and think it's funny to be destructive.

Like most criminals, you're too lazy to work for what want. It's just easier (and second nature) to take it from someone who did.

And now you're asking carebears to vote for you...not gonna happen.

"I made this so long because I did not have time to make it shorter." ~Blaise Pascal~

Nitshe Razvedka
#32 - 2016-02-03 16:43:42 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Ganking is a Top-of-mind-issue for Highsec carebears. Carebears make up the majority of voters, come up with answers before the vote. Even HoleySheet1 has answers for gankers, poach his ideas. You are deliberately avoiding this issue and it will cost you votes.
You should know me well enough by now to know I am pretty direct in my communication. Holeysheet1 is a troll, even in his CSM post. And that's a big no-no to me. The CSM is a serious matter. And also everyone here who replies and complains about how evil I am as Tora from the Marmite Collective, please dont vote for me, as you still dont see the difference between real life and role play.

And I'm not going to tell gankers I will make Eve a ganking heaven, just as I wont tell Anti-gankers I will be your carebear saviour. What I am saying is, both sides should have options in Eve to do damage to the others side, IF they put enough effort in it.



1. The key feature of ganking is a profit motive. There is NO profit motive in anti-ganking.

2. The game mechanics favour a cluster of ganking ships all insta warping from station to a bookmark/tgt. Making it neigh impossible to interdict.

3. AK freighter pilots cant warp anywhere when bumped by one or more machs.

Combine these three points together an you have a MIGHTY unbalanced hisec no matter what whiney 'entitled' gankers say.



If ANY candidate addresses these three points a block of carebear votes will follow.

Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.

Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.

Nitshe Razvedka
#33 - 2016-02-03 17:20:31 UTC
Come on Tora, have to make some compromises in politics. Don't want one of those null sec types winning ( because their alliance votes in blocks like sheep).

Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.

Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.

Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#34 - 2016-02-03 17:54:15 UTC
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
1. The key feature of ganking is a profit motive. There is NO profit motive in anti-ganking.

2. The game mechanics favour a cluster of ganking ships all insta warping from station to a bookmark/tgt. Making it neigh impossible to interdict.

3. AK freighter pilots cant warp anywhere when bumped by one or more machs.

Combine these three points together an you have a MIGHTY unbalanced hisec no matter what whiney 'entitled' gankers say.

1) Ganking can also be used to get revenge and industrial warfare for example.
2) I agree, see my above posts for change.
3) I agree, see above posts for change.

Improve option 2 and 3 and you'll have a nice balanced feature in Eve. Blink

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Reluctant Deity
#35 - 2016-02-03 19:54:15 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
1) Ganking can also be used to get revenge and industrial warfare for example.

Really? How?

An industrial pilot is strolling through HS in a freighter when a 30-man fleet of -10's descend on him (after 15-60 minutes of being bumped by a Machariel) and destroy his ship and probably his pod.

You think he can (with no pvp skills) go track down all 30 pilots and gank them one at a time?

THAT'S RIDICULOUS!

*No one believes that you're going to try and fix the ganker favored mechanics.

"I made this so long because I did not have time to make it shorter." ~Blaise Pascal~

Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#36 - 2016-02-03 20:14:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Tora Bushido
Reluctant Deity wrote:
You are so misguided. Your so-called carebears have no desire to "do damage" to anyone. That is so two dimensional and near-sighted of you.
You dont have to like it, but it's part of Eve Online. It would be the same as me telling all nullsec players, we need to remove nullsec, just because I dont like it. So wonder yourself, what the core of the problem is. Blink

Me, jumping through a nullsec gate in my freighter, suddenly 100 men alliance waiting for me... In your mind, we should probably forbid the 100 men alliance, because I stand no chance against such a big force of power. In my mind, I should have played smarter and used a jump freighter, web alts and/or scouts, joined an alliance blue to them.

Eve is a game of risk, no one is safe, anywhere. If you can not handle that, you're doing it wrong.

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Reluctant Deity
#37 - 2016-02-03 20:53:54 UTC

Tora, honestly that argument has gotten so old. You are saying that HS isn't safe so get over it, but you want us to vote for you so you can change something that you don't have a problem with in the first place.

Pick a side.

"I made this so long because I did not have time to make it shorter." ~Blaise Pascal~

Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#38 - 2016-02-03 22:01:14 UTC
Reluctant Deity wrote:

Tora, honestly that argument has gotten so old. You are saying that HS isn't safe so get over it, but you want us to vote for you so you can change something that you don't have a problem with in the first place.

Pick a side.
I have always picked the side of Eve Online's balanced content. You get the most fun, when both sides have equal opportunities. Currently I think attackers have more then the defenders. This is what I want to rebalance.

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Nitshe Razvedka
#39 - 2016-02-04 00:45:16 UTC
Well I for one encourage hisec to turn out to vote, and vote often.

Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.

Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.

Reluctant Deity
#40 - 2016-02-04 03:03:46 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
I have always picked the side of Eve Online's balanced content. You get the most fun, when both sides have equal opportunities. Currently I think attackers have more then the defenders. This is what I want to rebalance.

There you go again limiting Eve to two sides. Do you live in a society where there are only two sides? I doubt it.

You say, "DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !".

I say, "Defend the weak, for together we are stronger".

"I made this so long because I did not have time to make it shorter." ~Blaise Pascal~