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Was there any decent/useful christmas/new years gift this year?
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Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#61 - 2016-02-02 18:54:13 UTC
Cometopappa wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
It is simply really.

When children are ungrateful and do not appreciate their parents presents, they stop getting presents.

When CCP gave Holiday Gits that were useful people whined and wanted ridiculous stuff like free Battleships instead. Sooo ... now you only get presents that have no mechanical benefit in game. Get over it.


Except for the children analogy is wrong. We are subscribers, and they are a business. Children have little choice when it comes to parents. Subscribers can and will leave if they decide to.



Yes, we are indeed subscribers / customers of a business. I get what I pay for (access as far as is reasonable to the game - and really they do a fairly decent job at that compared to the online game market as a whole - as clearly stated in the EULA we all agreed to), do you?


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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#62 - 2016-02-02 20:23:37 UTC
Next Eve Gift. Primary Card.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2016-02-02 23:04:33 UTC
Cometopappa wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
It is simply really.

When children are ungrateful and do not appreciate their parents presents, they stop getting presents.

When CCP gave Holiday Gits that were useful people whined and wanted ridiculous stuff like free Battleships instead. Sooo ... now you only get presents that have no mechanical benefit in game. Get over it.


Except for the children analogy is wrong. We are subscribers, and they are a business. Children have little choice when it comes to parents. Subscribers can and will leave if they decide to.


At no point in the EULA does it say "CCP will give free stuff to useless pilots who are not capable of earning it themselves so they can get lots of EPEEN without effort and be awesome" .


  • The most sensible move CCP could make is never give gifts at all.
  • Making the gifts mechanically useless is an OK compromise.
  • Giving away stuff like Gecko just created a sense of entitlement and engendered huge thread-naughts with spoilt people demanding more.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#64 - 2016-02-02 23:10:33 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
  • Giving away stuff like Gecko just created a sense of entitlement and engendered huge thread-naughts with spoilt people demanding more.
    • And a shitton of money for those of us that were wise enough to realise that they were a commodity with a limit on numbers and invested in them, and would thus increase in value as the numbers become ever more limited.

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    Divine Entervention
    Doomheim
    #65 - 2016-02-02 23:13:34 UTC
    Nothing of worth
    Giaus Felix
    Doomheim
    #66 - 2016-02-02 23:27:08 UTC
    Divine Entervention wrote:
    Nothing of worth
    I'll bow to your judgement, you being the leading authority on being nothing of worth.

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    Celise Katelo
    State War Academy
    Caldari State
    #67 - 2016-02-03 14:04:36 UTC
    I would like CCP to give me a "Chameleon" for next years Christmas gift. With a full set of Officer mods P

    If this isn't possible then perhaps"Faction Tech3 Cruisers" - Guristas Pirates, makes a Tengu'Gila Tech3 Cruiser Shocked

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    Lan Wang
    Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
    Safety. Net
    #68 - 2016-02-03 19:16:21 UTC
    Giaus Felix wrote:
    Divine Entervention wrote:
    Nothing of worth
    I'll bow to your judgement, you being the leading authority on being nothing of worth.


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