EVE New Citizens Q&A

Youre just boring with your childishness now. If you dont have anything intelligent to post, then don't post. Otherwise continue to blow up MTUs and highsec bears and pretend like you think you have a clue.



I never said you couldnt be successful doing it that route. I answered the OPs question and gave the OP advice based on information they gave. What i saw a lot of in this thread was:

OP: I hate frigate pvp
Many Replies: You should learn to pvp in frigates and destroyers = reading comprehension isnt always a strong point among forum users.

I wasnt comparing types of pvp. I was trying to get the OP out of a ship that has a life expectancy of 30 seconds in a battle when piloted by the inexperienced. You do far more learning when your not dying.

I think what a lot of people that have been playing awhile forget is how overwhelming this game can be if youre new. A lot of things many of us just take as habit will be totally new for a new player. Things like ranges of weapons, when to use mods when to not use mods, orbiting/keeping at range, aligning, using MWD/AB/MJD, when to GTFO, etc. Frigates tend to take a lot of micromanagement to be successful ( and not dead) with. That is a lot to put on a new player. You want to keep it simple and basic for new players and you dont want to give them a lot to do...its like cramming for a life or death exam in 30 seconds. They need time to absorb basic ship flying tasks before moving to more advanced tasks.

I tried learning pvp in frigates and cruisers when i first started. Only thing i learned was that i was a very easy kill. I had low skills and my ship didnt have any DPS or tank to speak of. I then got into stealth bombers ( with cruise missiles) I was told very specifically how to fly. Cloaked and waiting. our tackle would tackle we would pop cloak and launch missiles from 70km in a massive alpha. Everyone recloak. Wait. repeat on next target.

I learned more in one roam of doing that than i did in 20 attempts with frigs and cruisers. It was simple, i was out of range of the threat, and i could watch the field while focusing on a few simple tasks instead of running around like a chicken with my head cut off being completely useless. As time has went on i got into more complicated ships/fits and learned different tactics all while keeping my losses fairly minimal.

Of course you can watch :)

A. Uhm, isn't that the whole idea of being in a fleet as a newbro, that you are thought how it works.

Really, ALL your points are easily solved, by flying with the correct people (Agony class / Redemption Road Newbro Roams just to name a few).

B. Frigates CAN be a lot of micromanagement, it really depends on the fit and in what method you use them (solo vs small gang).

C. I too learned in frigates to PvP (before that I just did F1-monkey stuff). And I didn't even die till after about 10 fights and 3 hours of roaming. So really, if you die within 30 seconds, really, who is leeroying the fleet?



But really, all your answers just show me one thing. You mainly have experience being in a F1-monkey ball in terms of PvP


Greatest example of newby frigate PvP: Our own Azda Ja.

Started, went solo / small gang frigate and mastered it.

Personally I think equal parts F1 mashing and solo experimentation is the fastest way to git gud as a newbro.