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Will Buying Skill Points Ruin The Game?

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Trader20
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#161 - 2016-02-01 05:28:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Trader20
Well if this thread does get locked it has been entertaining at least. Also I don't think you can report someone for hurting your feelings Lol

I believe threads like this will easy both parties ease into the idea of change instead of ccp just throwing a change in the game that hasn't been debated.

Edit Grammar: Typing on a phone
sero Hita
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#162 - 2016-02-01 07:16:12 UTC  |  Edited by: sero Hita
Teckos Pech wrote:


Now, a careful reading of my post would clearly indicate that the claims were not mine. I have never made any claims about how to get the number of players on line up. Therefore for you to show up and call me a liar and to prove claims I think are bogus to begin with is stupid and foolish. I called you on that and now you want to pout? Fine, whatever.


Except i did not! Dude, please stop with the HTFU. You misunderstood that post completely(and I did not have the energy to correct you at the time).
I never claimed that you claimed the number would go up. I claimed you were claiming others meant it, without supporting it.(I see now, you where referring to the other thread)

Imo. opinion you only made that claim so you later on could say "I told you there was no increase in subs, so the changes are bad lol". That is what I commented on, word for word!! go back and read the post i wrote. It is unlogical to estimate if the SP changes were a success based on if it will bring more people in (especially since CCP never claimed that, but some random people in the game. It should be evaluated based on the success criteria CCP put up). That was my point.

The calling you a liar part was going overboard, I will give you that, bad choice of words. The word I should have used was of course manipulative. my apologies. You still misunderstood what I wrote though. So to sum up: I think you are just looking for arguments to say that the SP change was bad .My estimation was that we will see you on the forum in three months " lol, what a fail. people said SP packages would bring more people and it did not". That is what I got from you first post, and that was all I commented on.

"I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec. Got T-shirts from every which-where.. But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp." RealFlisker
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#163 - 2016-02-01 12:11:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert Caldera
I dont think so.
Because in order to inject SP, someone would have to sell SP. Every time this occurs, SP are removed from the game because you receive less than someone else exported, so its a self regulating process and will lead to stagnation of SP purchases with increasing cost of SP.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#164 - 2016-02-01 12:41:10 UTC
Just prepare your forum-foo for a ton of angry new players who think that they have to purchase extremely overpriced SP with $ to overcome the slow SP accumulation paywall while at the same time having to pay a subscription.

Evil RatKid
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#165 - 2016-02-01 12:46:54 UTC
after a thought, I strongly believe that the price of 2500m SP will drop to the price of plex which will be lower bound for sp price, which could start rising again as people need to plex their sp farmer alts, assumed there are enough buyers.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#166 - 2016-02-01 13:06:59 UTC
To the original question, no it won't kill the game. It is a step further down a bad road. As usual, it will not result in the good consequences CCP predicts (though some accidental benefits may occur), it will result in yet another lesson on the laws of unintended consequences.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#167 - 2016-02-01 13:11:31 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:
I relish the bitter vet tears. Long live the scrubs!


The irony here is that people always say that, mainly because they don't understand how things work. SP trading benefits vets, it will eventually be shown to screw new players and 'scrubs'. You just celebrated a new income stream and new set of advantages for 'bitter vets'.

Does your brilliance know no bounds?
Conar
My Wormhole Hurts
#168 - 2016-02-01 13:16:33 UTC
Give anyone a mountain of skill points (or isk) and they will be bored within a few months. I think it is a very bad idea. Why CCP would even consider it is beyond me. Sad Panda....

Conar 07
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#169 - 2016-02-01 13:34:06 UTC
Conar wrote:
Give anyone a mountain of skill points (or isk) and they will be bored within a few months. I think it is a very bad idea. Why CCP would even consider it is beyond me. Sad Panda....

Conar 07


They won't be bored in the beginning.

They (the ones with real life cash that is) will come in, PLEX their way into a bunch of skill points (in a similar but more streamlined and less balanced way than they do with the char baazar now), jump into ships they know nothing about, take PVP fights or do PVE content they know nothing about, blow up a lot because of their ignorance and quit even sooner than they might have otherwise.
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#170 - 2016-02-01 13:38:25 UTC
Conar wrote:
Give anyone a mountain of skill points (or isk) and they will be bored within a few months. I think it is a very bad idea. Why CCP would even consider it is beyond me. Sad Panda....

Conar 07


mountain of SPs? i don't think an SP extractor, SP injector and the SP packets will be cheap that anybody can immediately fly T3 cruisers on day 1.

i would personally sell SP packets (500k SP) for atleast a billion isk + the cost of the SP extractor, wherein some are speculating to be a PLEX each, so it would be roughly around 2B isk already.

then the buyer, after buying the SP packets needs an SP injector, which i hope would be a PLEX/pc as well.

so the whole process, by my speculation, would cost atleast 3B isk just to acquire 500k SPs.

Just Add Water
King Aires
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#171 - 2016-02-01 13:39:00 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
To the original question, no it won't kill the game. It is a step further down a bad road. As usual, it will not result in the good consequences CCP predicts (though some accidental benefits may occur), it will result in yet another lesson on the laws of unintended consequences.


Quoting this because of the ramifications to the quantum glue that holds the universe together that I am on the exact same page as Jenn on this issue.

+1
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#172 - 2016-02-01 13:43:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
I recieved a notification of a King Aires like. This must mean I was mistaken, Skill Point Trading is awesome and if you do it you will get both money and women in real life.

Twisted

j/k it's still awful.
King Aires
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#173 - 2016-02-01 13:45:23 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
I revived a notification of a King Aires like. This must mean I was mistaken, Skill Point Trading is awesome and if you do it you will get both money and women in real life.

Twisted

j/k it's still awful.



The disturbance in the force was as if 100 CCP Devs cried out, and were suddenly silenced or something like that. Twisted
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#174 - 2016-02-01 13:52:36 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Conar wrote:
Give anyone a mountain of skill points (or isk) and they will be bored within a few months. I think it is a very bad idea. Why CCP would even consider it is beyond me. Sad Panda....

Conar 07


They won't be bored in the beginning.

They (the ones with real life cash that is) will come in, PLEX their way into a bunch of skill points (in a similar but more streamlined and less balanced way than they do with the char baazar now), jump into ships they know nothing about, take PVP fights or do PVE content they know nothing about, blow up a lot because of their ignorance and quit even sooner than they might have otherwise.


ive said this before but buying chars dont always end up like this, i had more fun in the game when i bought my char than i did when i had just started, lost alot of ships but it was fun and i still continue to have fun

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
ISD Fractal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#175 - 2016-02-01 15:52:26 UTC
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As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread.


Seeing as this thread largely is based on feedback for the new skill point trading system coming in February, please place all of your feedback in the appropriate thread.

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