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Not exactly new; scrub soloist looking for know-how.
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Shiki Mikkyou
#1 - 2012-01-10 16:59:53 UTC
I've been playing since last autumn, nearing 5M SP now.

At first I trained for exploration, then added stealth bomber skills to my plan, then made an alt and dabbled in trade which I never got the hang of, then did the same thing with industry with the same result.

Now I'm just running around in a Caracal doing L2s while I try to grind standings for JCs.

I have some questions about possible directions to take but I don't have any comrades here and newb chat hasn't been too helpful.

  • What sort of pilots are WH corps usually looking to hire? How many SP does one need to generally need to be ready for a career in W-Space?
  • I understand SBs are are of limited use in PvP, especially from a corp point of view. Killboards are mostly Hurricanes, Drakes, and Tengus. Is there anything else I could pilot without years of training that would make me a good candidate for corps engaged small gang warfare?
  • As a student with a full-time job, I'm curious how much time both casual and hardcore low-sec/null-sec corps expect their pilots to log in-game.


Maybe these questions are too specific, or I've posted them in the wrong forum, but any guidance here would be greatly appreciated.

All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain。
Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
#2 - 2012-01-10 17:47:35 UTC
Most of your questions are corp specific, and you would have to do some research on particular corps you have interest in joining. There is a recruitment forum and also a 'Recruitment' channel in game that you can check and possibly get some more info from. In regard to WH space, I'd recommend waiting until you've done more research and can use t2 modules. Sleeper's are tougher than normal rats and you'll potentially have aggressive players to deal with.

As far as ships, you don't need years, or even a year of training to build a competent combat ship. A few months of training and you should be able to use most t2 modules (not including weapons systems). Before training though, I'd suggest finding out what role you want to fill when it comes to a corp. With your current scanning/SB skills a scout may be a good role to start.

There are too many 'careers' in Eve to list, as you can basically do whatever you want and give it a name. Just keep trying different things until something sticks to you. Hope this helped some.

Fly Safe. o7

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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#3 - 2012-01-10 17:50:05 UTC
Shiki Mikkyou wrote:


  • I understand SBs are are of limited use in PvP, especially from a corp point of view. Killboards are mostly Hurricanes, Drakes, and Tengus. Is there anything else I could pilot without years of training that would make me a good candidate for corps engaged small gang warfare?



Interceptors and AF's are excellent candidates for nullsec small gang warfare. So are Blackbird Pilots.


Shiki Mikkyou wrote:


  • As a student with a full-time job, I'm curious how much time both casual and hardcore low-sec/null-sec corps expect their pilots to log in-game.



This very much depends on the corp. Most corps just want you to login and participate with the Corp. In my experience, its not so much as a "be on X hours" type of thing, and more of a "does your playtime align up with corp activities (gangs)" type of thing. If your the latter, and you play a couple times a week, you'll be welcome.
Shiki Mikkyou
#4 - 2012-01-11 15:55:37 UTC
Thanks for the responses, gents.

Would it help to put some info in my Bio, or do recruiters not even look at that stuff?

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Karl Planck
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-01-11 17:46:52 UTC
Shiki Mikkyou wrote:
Thanks for the responses, gents.

Would it help to put some info in my Bio, or do recruiters not even look at that stuff?


It would not help. Check out the recruitment forums and just talk to people. Most have you fill out separate documentation anyways (if at all).

I has all the eve inactivity
Mr Morita
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#6 - 2012-01-11 18:16:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Morita
Shiki Mikkyou wrote:
]I understand SBs are are of limited use in PvP, especially from a corp point of view. Killboards are mostly Hurricanes, Drakes, and Tengus. Is there anything else I could pilot without years of training that would make me a good candidate for corps engaged small gang warfare?


Since you're already trained in Caldari, I'd just stick with a nano Drake.
Shiki Mikkyou
#7 - 2012-01-11 18:50:12 UTC
Mr Morita wrote:
Since you're already trained in Caldari, I'd just stick with a nano Drake.

That sounds like the exact type of ship my opponents would expect me to fly...

*squints*

I'm onto you.

All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain。
Mr Morita
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#8 - 2012-01-11 22:27:27 UTC
Shiki Mikkyou wrote:
Mr Morita wrote:
Since you're already trained in Caldari, I'd just stick with a nano Drake.

That sounds like the exact type of ship my opponents would expect me to fly...

*squints*

I'm onto you.


welp~

If they end up buffing AF's, the Amarrian AF's wouldn't be too bad. Good thing about Amarr = best capitals; worst thing is that AHAC zealots are no longer the FOTM.
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#9 - 2012-01-11 22:51:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Kahega Amielden
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]I understand SBs are are of limited use in PvP, especially from a corp point of view. Killboards are mostly Hurricanes, Drakes, and Tengus. Is there anything else I could pilot without years of training that would make me a good candidate for corps engaged small gang warfare?


As a general rule, EVE is more balanced than the forums give it credit for. Battlecruisers are popular, even a bit overpowered (in my opinion, anyway)...but that's primarily because they're at that cost level where they're easily affordable for most players and easy to fly/use.

Bombers are not of limited use in PVP at all. A well-fit bomber will do battlecruiser-level DPS at a range that can keep it safe in most circumstances - they're also good scouts due to the covops cloak. They see most use either in cloaky gangs (e.g. other than bombers you'll have recons and maybe black ops) or frigate/cruiser gangs (who don't otherwise have the raw damage that a bomber can put out).


If the corp you're joining primarily uses cookie-cutter battlecruiser gangs then you could still fly interceptors (tackle is -always- needed) or ECM (blackbirds are cheap and amazing, though they do get instantly primaried). The moa is pretty decent in a cruiser gang, caracals are perfect for anti-frig/interceptor support... The Caldari AFs are pretty decent, about to get even better with the upcoming AF buff on the 24th.


So, pretty much, the answer is "find something that sounds cool and train for it".



Also, you don't need to grind standings for JCs. Search for the "Estel Arador Corp services" corp ingame. I believe it is still going; basically you apply to the corp, join, use the corp standings to buy jump clones, then quit.
Shiki Mikkyou
#10 - 2012-01-12 00:18:40 UTC
Kahega Amielden wrote:
So, pretty much, the answer is "find something that sounds cool and train for it".

Cov Ops, SB, AF, EAF, EWAR all sound pretty fun to me, though I don't know how many small gangs want such ships in the line-up. I figured I would have to train up for L3 and L4 mission boats first anyway.

Kahega Amielden wrote:
Also, you don't need to grind standings for JCs. Search for the "Estel Arador Corp services" corp ingame. I believe it is still going; basically you apply to the corp, join, use the corp standings to buy jump clones, then quit.
It sounds so cheap to use them in this way... plus wouldn't I have to go back to get more clones after being podded a few times?

All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain。
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#11 - 2012-01-12 01:08:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Kahega Amielden
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Cov Ops, SB, AF, EAF, EWAR all sound pretty fun to me, though I don't know how many small gangs want such ships in the line-up. I figured I would have to train up for L3 and L4 mission boats first anyway.


Bombers are easymode for faction warfare missions if you get into that, covops are used in gangs for their probing abilities, AFs are great in smaller ship gangs. Some of the tankier AFs are going to be stupidly amazing heavy tackle, actually, so even larger gangs might like a Harpy or Retribution...And, of course, EWAR is always good, especially Caldari ewar (though expect to get primaried a lot).

There are ways to make money that don't involve grinding level 4s. To take advantage of your covert ops skills, look into exploration. Lowsec profession sites (magnetometric/radar sites) can be run easily in a t1 cruiser or an AF.


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It sounds so cheap to use them in this way... plus wouldn't I have to go back to get more clones after being podded a few times?


Nope! JCs are permanent. The only way to destroy a JC is to travel to a station in which you have a JC, and then jump (as you can't have two clones in the same station). When you get podded, you lose your medical clone, not your jump clone.
Shiki Mikkyou
#12 - 2012-01-12 02:17:59 UTC
Well this is good news, thanks very much!

All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain。
Mr Morita
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#13 - 2012-01-13 00:59:46 UTC
Another easy way to make some real good Isk is incursion running. If you run with shield vanguard fleets, you can easily make at least 80mil an hour.
Shiki Mikkyou
#14 - 2012-01-13 01:15:46 UTC
Now... Incursions require skill-intensive fittings, and are susceptible to awoxers (or whatever they are called), yes? Still, dat ISK is a powerful lure.

All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain。