EVE Information Portal

I like the nice clean look - and I'm glad CCP is working on this. I look forward to the total overhaul of the EVE UI and this is a positive start.

A few thoughts. This shot shows the darkened menu area extending to the bottom of the screen, way below the last menu item. It also shows quite a lot of darkened-area padding to the right of the menu text. I for one want as much of the background space scene, windows etc. fully visible and if the space isn't actively being used by the menus, I'd prefer it wasn't darkened and making it harder to see. This is a particular problem for people playing at lowish screen resolutions because of the screen space they'll take up.

I'd also suggest building in a 'minimise all' button, excluding the overview, drones and fleet (and perhaps making this customisable). A keyboard shortcut which people have to go delving into the ESC-menu for to find isn't that user friendly. The 'show desktop' button was always the first thing I put in my shortcuts bar on a Windows install, and EVE could benefit from the same.

By the way, adding icons to all menu items (inc. right-click menus) like the ones you've put on the Neocom menus would make navigating through the EVE UI a lot easier, particularly for new players.

Fuggin' epic!

ugh. double post.

Imagine a world where we could open windows as new tabs...

A man can dream, can't he?

The argument here is that when you open up a window that is not already pinned to the Neocom, the toggle close functionality can become very annoying. If you for example want to keep an agent mission window open for the duration of a mission, you could quite easily close the window by accident with the toggle close functionality, but with toggle minimize you won't lose the window as easily through clumsy clicking. Also, for windows that are already pinned to the Neocom, you don't really care too much if the window is closed or minimized, as long as it pops in your face when you click the button. This also results in the nice side effect that windows generally take much less time to maximize than to open. As with all new functionality, this will of course take a little bit of getting used to.

As I said in the blog, doing top/bottom alignment is obviously possible, but it just takes time, and we decided that the benefit/time ratio was simply too low. According to the feedback from our last attempt, most people wanted to keep it vertical anyway.

I don't like the new neocom on sisi.
It's very confusing.

Please make an option available to all players so we can switch between current one and the new one.

Oh wow, I really like the way the new neocom looks, I just hope the menu access is fluid

Devs have a long history of really really sucking at what counts as "better."

For me, the worst part about the old new neocom, and the horizontal alignment, was that you have 30 different windows that look like [?]. Like some dev is saying "I don't even know what the f*ck this window is!" Just like the ctrl-tab window became useless when it was switched to icons, you're making the minimized windows equally useless. Your design is bad and you should feel bad. You're admitting to "selling out" to "awesum". Remember how big a flop it was last time that happened?

This is totally premature. The EVE UI sucks noodles. A very small portion of it is in how you access it. How you access any particular window or tool in the game is a matter of memorizing where it is located. Now you're throwing away the millions of man-hours put into memorization, and you're making it harder for vets to tell rookies "oh, to access your fitting in space you need to hit the fitting button on the neocom, 3rd button down." All this does is turn a huge shithole of a UI into a swirling shithole of a UI. Sorry, but this sounds like change for the sake of change, where not only does nothing get better, it actually gets worse.

I like the listed scope of the changes thus far. Let's hope that they work as advertised since they won't hit SISI.

But all in all, I think that these will be good, albeit requiring some relearning of the UI (which is not the end of the world regardless of what some others might claim).