EVE General Discussion

End of Roleplay

The concept of the Oasis Citadel is something I had been imagining since first learning about Wormholes in EVE, before I had ever actually started playing. They fascinated me, the idea of inconsistent connections in a mysterious and unknown region of space. I had dreams of a coalition of independent groups living in separate wormholes, coming to each other's aid and trading whenever possible.

After learning a bit more I discovered it wasn't practical at the time, but the idea has stuck with me. Now, with the release of citadels on the horizon, the idea has come back to me in a somewhat more reserved form.

The Plan

I plan on constructing and operating a Citadel in a class-4 wormhole with a C5 static and either a C3 or C2 static. The C5 static serves as a connection to the C5 Highway for travel and higher level ratting, and the C2 or C3 gives access to lower level ratting and exploration.

Security

A.) Bubbles

Oasis will be fortified with bubbles to force people to need to warp to the Citadel before warping to any other location, and the bubbles will be moved and updated on a regular basis to ease travel to newly-formed ore sites and wormholes. This will help make it safer for miners, gassers, and people doing PI.

B.) Bounties and Standings.

The Oasis Citadel will maintain a shitlist using standings. You're not allowed to kill greys and up in Oasis, you are allowed to kill yellows, and you'll get payed for killing reds based on their fitting.

Profits and Costs

Revenue will be generated through a low market tax rate and through a LootBuy program. We will purchase wormhole loot at a value slightly lower than highsec, after which we will ship it out ourselves to sell. This is to be interpreted as a service, where the price discrepancy is our fee for shipping your loot.

The money will be used to pay bounties, buying things that we cannot produce domestically, and providing subsidies and investments to residents.

There is a concise and comprehensive rulelist typed out, which will be made publicly available and readable shortly before the Citadel has been launched.

Construction Cost

The cost of constructing the Citadel will be covered by us. My grandmother, Sundoll Otium, and I have been stockpiling ISK to be able to pay for them.

We are estimating 1 billion ISK per attempt. We are rounding up to assume a "worst-case" scenario so we have more safety and ISK buffer.

Crowdsourcing Research Components

I am calling on people to contact me in-game if they are interested in donating Research Components to up our chances of receiving a Citadel BPC.

Don't start sending them just yet, I want to make sure we can get enough contributors for it to make a difference. There's no point in you sending your components if they won't actually accomplish much.

Should we fail to receive a BPC in the research raffle, we will either buy a Citadel, buy a BPC, or buy a BPO depending on how the costs shake out.

Investing

We have a good supply of ISK to cover construction costs, and if anyone is interested in contributing, please mail me in-game or on Reddit. We will pay back all investments, plus a bit extra, as soon as the Citadel has provided the ISK to do so.

Thera 2.0

The citadels allow actual proper docking, so they won't need to be in the corp or alliance to dock at it and use its facilities.

Bubbles will be allowed directly on wormholes, but only Oasis can put the permanent long-term ones that will go around celestials and other permanent structures. Non-Oasis bubbles are up for grabs for whoever wants to kill them if they're not on a Wormhole or around an ore site, and putting them up anywhere but wormholes and around ore sites may result in you getting a reduction in standings to Oasis. That includes putting them directly on ore sites, or between the citadel and a site.

That really makes no sense. Even if it were possible (it isn't) it would probably get your miners killed more often than not.


Ermm...not in a C4!

In any case...looking forward to finding this hole.

It won't work. Almost anything that finds you will be sporting a cloak. Static bubbles are fairly worthless in wormhole space. It would just be a massive waste of effort (if you could even keep up to begin with - new sigs spawn randomly throughout the day). And I still don't understand how exactly you're going to force someone to warp to the Citadel...they could just warp to any planet or moon instead. Or are you going to bubble every moon every time a new wormhole spawns?

You're welcome to try it. But it'll just be a false sense of security because it really won't help you.

With POCO's for example, we surround the POCO with bubbles that aren't actually touching the POCO. There is a window that points to the Citadel. So, if you want to warp to the POCO, the fast way to do it is to warp to the Citadel, then to the POCO. If you don't do that, you get caught in the POCO bubbles.

If you're a pirate, this makes it more difficult for you to get the jump on your target. Of course, there will be people in cloaky nullified T3's, but you can't stop everything.

let's say someone goes to a new ore site that just appeared. If Oasis has not put up their own bubbles at the ore site, the miners or bounty hunters can put up their own to secure the area and either trap or slow down attackers.

This isn't 0.0. No one will be nullified. Everyone will be cloaky. No one will be stopped by an anchored bubble.

So you will bubble every warpable object? You realize this means that your miners will only have one viable escape route. Lets say a Stratios jumps in your system. There's a bubble on the hole but he doesn't care, he's cloaked. He scouts out the system and realizes that everything is bubbled. Calls a couple friends, makes a perch or two. By the time he decloaks on your mining fleet there will be a Saber 500 km off your citadel (because you conveniently left that route open for him) and your miners have to choose which bubble to warp into.

The main point is that cloaked ships don't care about bubbles unless they're actively camped. Everyone in wormhole space is cloaky, at least initially. The whole idea is just silly and anyone you ask to bubble the system for you is going to laugh in your face (unless they also fly poorly fit hacking myrmidons perhaps).

The rest of your idea is fine, I guess. I'm not sure why anyone would want to mine in WH space when they could just go to null-sec and use bubbles AND local to their advantage. Not to mention, WH space doesn't really support large-scale mining because your sites will dry up pretty quickly. Anyone with experience in WH space would tell you, you pick your static for the content you want, not your home system (which again - bubbles in your home system won't help you).

I will leave you alone now though. Good luck with your scheme. I do hope to see you in space.

Again...you can't bring dreads in a C4.