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Maria Daphiti
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#81 - 2016-01-26 15:51:30 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Update on introducing negative Voluval marks to the Nauplius slave colony


And just where is this "colony?"

Who knows, maybe the Matari will stop "auditing" Ice cream and pay you a visit. You, know, actually "come for their people" this time around?
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#82 - 2016-01-27 00:26:18 UTC
Maria Daphiti wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
Update on introducing negative Voluval marks to the Nauplius slave colony


And just where is this "colony?"

Who knows, maybe the Matari will stop "auditing" Ice cream and pay you a visit. You, know, actually "come for their people" this time around?


Current testing of the Slaver's Fang is limited to my hanger colony in Mehatoor.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#83 - 2016-01-27 00:36:04 UTC
Maria Daphiti wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
Update on introducing negative Voluval marks to the Nauplius slave colony


And just where is this "colony?"

Who knows, maybe the Matari will stop "auditing" Ice cream and pay you a visit. You, know, actually "come for their people" this time around?

If your going to criticize my people, aiming it at those who have done something in the past verses those like myself and many others who haven't is rather pointless is it not?
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#84 - 2016-01-27 00:50:26 UTC
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:
No special-snowflake look-at-my-exciting-life stuff there


People are very quick to comment on me being abrasive, then they start denigrating the customs of clans in their own tribe.
Maria Daphiti
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#85 - 2016-01-27 01:49:41 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Maria Daphiti wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
Update on introducing negative Voluval marks to the Nauplius slave colony


And just where is this "colony?"

Who knows, maybe the Matari will stop "auditing" Ice cream and pay you a visit. You, know, actually "come for their people" this time around?

If your going to criticize my people, aiming it at those who have done something in the past verses those like myself and many others who haven't is rather pointless is it not?


Respectfully Ms. Vess, it was aimed at the ice cream auditors and gradient. If they've come for their people and rescued anyone from Nauplius, do let me know. Because I've missed it. And yes, on almost all occasions he was in low sec, in some cases in "matari" systems.

I am aware Anslo helped on occasion. I'll be charitable and assume you were with Scope Werks at the time(s).
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#86 - 2016-01-27 02:26:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Deitra Vess
Maria Daphiti wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
Maria Daphiti wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
Update on introducing negative Voluval marks to the Nauplius slave colony


And just where is this "colony?"

Who knows, maybe the Matari will stop "auditing" Ice cream and pay you a visit. You, know, actually "come for their people" this time around?

If your going to criticize my people, aiming it at those who have done something in the past verses those like myself and many others who haven't is rather pointless is it not?


Respectfully Ms. Vess, it was aimed at the ice cream auditors and gradient. If they've come for their people and rescued anyone from Nauplius, do let me know. Because I've missed it. And yes, on almost all occasions he was in low sec, in some cases in "matari" systems.

I am aware Anslo helped on occasion. I'll be charitable and assume you were with Scope Werks at the time(s).

Gradient did much more than those who rose to the stars after them, myself included, have combined. I think its a little unfitting to blame a part of our foundation for not rising to the occasion after its laid to rest. Also your charities wasted on me. I was involved in a move op to the Great Wild lands with my alliance at the time (Hashashin Cartel) during Scope's claim to fame in the warzone. Before that I was exclusively involved in alliance level sorties targeting such groups as Imperial Outlaws, who I'm sure your familiar with, and the other Amarrian forces around the Egghelende system. To say the least we largely worked alone. When I was in Scope the last time very little was for my people, maybe two or three instances I can think of. I left them when they literally joined a group opposing us, back to my roots as they say. None of said groups have gone after Nauplius' towers, ect, as a group effort.
Arnulf Ogunkoya
Clan Ogunkoya
Electus Matari
#87 - 2016-01-27 21:46:28 UTC
Maria Daphiti wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
Maria Daphiti wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
Update on introducing negative Voluval marks to the Nauplius slave colony


And just where is this "colony?"

Who knows, maybe the Matari will stop "auditing" Ice cream and pay you a visit. You, know, actually "come for their people" this time around?

If your going to criticize my people, aiming it at those who have done something in the past verses those like myself and many others who haven't is rather pointless is it not?


Respectfully Ms. Vess, it was aimed at the ice cream auditors and gradient. If they've come for their people and rescued anyone from Nauplius, do let me know. Because I've missed it. And yes, on almost all occasions he was in low sec, in some cases in "matari" systems.

I am aware Anslo helped on occasion. I'll be charitable and assume you were with Scope Werks at the time(s).


Gradient, when part of Electus Matari, did come for people. Specifically the people abducted by Imperial Human Resources from the Republic. I know this because I was flying escort duty on that raid back before I was KOS in imperial space. PIE's command felt this was unjustified, hence the war fought between PIE and EM long before any of this Militia business started. We have also hunted Sani Sabik before now. The last one we went after was a moron who goes by the name Darth Sage.

Also, "We come for our people" is an Ushra'Khan slogan, do try to keep up.

Regards, Arnulf Ogunkoya.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#88 - 2016-01-28 01:44:27 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:
No special-snowflake look-at-my-exciting-life stuff there


People are very quick to comment on me being abrasive, then they start denigrating the customs of clans in their own tribe.


Nobody and nothing is too sacred to criticise. Not even God or Elders. I report on what I observe, not on what I think ought to be observed.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#89 - 2016-01-28 02:42:55 UTC
So do I, but then people get whiny about it. Double standards, hmm?

Having Sebiestor start mocking the customs and ways of other Sebiestor clans was rather unexpected though. There's a difference between criticism and mockery, but I suppose you're too Gallentean now to grasp that, perhaps.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#90 - 2016-01-28 03:26:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
So do I, but then people get whiny about it. Double standards, hmm?

Having Sebiestor start mocking the customs and ways of other Sebiestor clans was rather unexpected though. There's a difference between criticism and mockery, but I suppose you're too Gallentean now to grasp that, perhaps.


I mock and criticise everything, myself included. Unless something has made itself too perfect to be criticised or mocked.

However, such a thing hasn't existed yet.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Ginnie
Doomheim
#91 - 2016-01-28 20:44:49 UTC
First of all, what were the Minmatar prior to slavery? Nothing...absolutely nothing. They were worthless scattered tribes that were constantly fighting with one another.

What did the Amarr do for the Minmatar people? They gave them a purpose. They gave them a prosperous life. Instead of constantly fighting with one another, the Minmatar were given jobs and a purpose to living. Instead of being scattered on desolate worthless planets, the Amarr brought the Minmatar people to the most glorious and beautiful part of the galaxy.

How did the Minmatar repay this unprecedented kindness? Armed rebellion.

Where is the justice, the honor, or the humility in that? Why don't you give me a job, cloth me, feed me, and generally take care of me as my benevolent benefactor, and some day, some day soon, I'll pull a gun on you, kill your wife and child in front of you, burn your house down and skip on back to my "home world."

How are you gonna feel?

It sounds plausible enough tonight, but wait until tomorrow. Wait for the common sense of the morning.
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#92 - 2016-01-28 20:54:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:
No special-snowflake look-at-my-exciting-life stuff there


People are very quick to comment on me being abrasive, then they start denigrating the customs of clans in their own tribe.

Um, I sure did not intend to do that, or at least denigrate anyone else's customs any more than my own.

What I meant is this:
- pretty much every clan has a place for where to put tattoos about life events and achievements
- some of those tattoos *are* a little (sometimes a lot) on the "special snowflake look at me" side of things
- I mean come on, look at myself and my Thukker friends from my misspent youth: who the hell tattoos emergency clonings on them like some kind of a badge of honor? (well I do, and I like it, so sue me)
- in my clan the place for those is not on the face, but on the back, but YMMV
- so if you have attempted to read something into what is on my face: sorry to tell, those are not the interesting part, they are just clan, associations, and subtribe
- some other folks have their special-snowflake stuff on their face, but you really should not assume without asking

Eles
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#93 - 2016-01-28 22:15:58 UTC
Ginnie wrote:
First of all, what were the Minmatar prior to slavery? Nothing...absolutely nothing. They were worthless scattered tribes that were constantly fighting with one another.

What did the Amarr do for the Minmatar people? They gave them a purpose. They gave them a prosperous life. Instead of constantly fighting with one another, the Minmatar were given jobs and a purpose to living. Instead of being scattered on desolate worthless planets, the Amarr brought the Minmatar people to the most glorious and beautiful part of the galaxy.

How did the Minmatar repay this unprecedented kindness? Armed rebellion.

Where is the justice, the honor, or the humility in that? Why don't you give me a job, cloth me, feed me, and generally take care of me as my benevolent benefactor, and some day, some day soon, I'll pull a gun on you, kill your wife and child in front of you, burn your house down and skip on back to my "home world."

How are you gonna feel?


Lets break this down shall we?

1:
"First of all, what were the Minmatar prior to slavery?"
Aside from having Space flight, numerous planets, a well developed society, and centuries of peace before your people "graced our presence," we also were Industrialized on a very fertile group of planets. Hardly Nothing.

2:
"What did the Amarr do for the Minmatar people?"
Showed us the light of your god in the form of Tachyon Lasers.

3:
"How did the Minmatar repay this unprecedented kindness?"
Were you expecting anything less?

4:
"Where is the justice, the honor, or the humility in that?"
You tell me.

5:
"How are you gonna feel?"
Pretty good about my people, I wont lie.