Market Discussions

Hello all,

I hope you are all as excited I am for the next meta: Citadels. http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/building-your-citadel-one-block-at-a-time/

As you know, Citadels will be somewhat of a hybrid between player made stations, and what we currently call POS'. One of the great things about Citadels is that people will be able to trade items at zero (edit: low) percent tax (provided that the owner chooses so).

Recently, someone calculated that there was 350 billion in profit made in Jita daily. I think his or her numbers were found to be off, but 350 billion is just the margin. Imagine how much isk is actually changing hands! Likely trillions a day...

Jita currently charges a tax for every isk spent. Even if this tax were as low as 1%, same would amount to 10 billion in taxes per trillion. With citadels, we could possibly forego this tax.

Do you think that, with enough publicity, people could be persuaded to change the current market from Jita 4-4 to possibly an XL-Citadel located somewhere in an adjacent system?

If so, I propose getting together and building an XL Citadel in Jita (and maybe later one in Amarr). I have quite a few billion saved up, which I would be willing to invest, but obviously I cannot do it alone.

Let me know what you think. If there is interest, there would need to be a way to remunerate those that contribute. Maybe a lottery based on the amount of isk that you donate? If you win the lottery you get your name name as part of the citadel name for a certain amount of time?

Obviously all the isk would go to a third party, such as Chribba. We could even agree to make Chribba the owner of the citadels to make sure that there is no abuse and that taxes aren’t raised.

Note: this assumes that an XL Citadel would be very hard to destroy in High Security - possibly a reasonable assumption given that no capital ships are available. Although any items within the citadel would be transferred to another station if ever it does get destroyed.

Edit: This could also be used for free repairs.

Edit 2: From the looks of it, this may actually become a thing. CCP just announced that it is planning on raising tax in NPC stations from 2.5% to 7.5 or 8%. Whoa. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=471995&find=unread

Needs a catchy name like TITANS4U CITADELS4U

i have a feeling that like POSes, citadels will not be allowed in Jita.

Also paints a target, someones gonna war dec it and roll over it with a dread fleet unless it has a very dedicated defense initiative.

Finally, isk sinks are good, i suspect that SCC taxes will apply to any market, regardless of where it is, They still apply to null stations.

No.

Current stations can not be destroyed - there is no risk in having trillions of assets sitting in a station.

The second you go to move a trade hub out of a station into a citadel - everyone's assets are at risk. A citadel can be destroyed.

The only way this will happen is if CCP makes it so existing stations can be destroyed after citadel's have been released - then yes - most definitely. What you want will happen - and i can foresee Chribba being the one to lead and make this happen.

If Chribba owned the Citadel - everyone would be at ease that they are not going to be screwed over. God help anyone that decides to try and take on Chribba - as people would make this their main trade hub and you can guarantee an army will stand up to defend it considering how much in assets would be sitting in the thing.

Speaking of which - Chribba??? Have you had any thoughts on this? :)

I aqm pretty sure they said that items within citadels would not be destroyed - merely placed in a close NPC station...

Why would anyone put in the time and effort to build a citadel and set a 0% tax rate?

I hate to burst your bubble but citadels will most likely have the same system deployment restrictions as POSes: namely they cannot be built in a number of special systems. IE trade hubs such as Jita, Amarr, et al.

And just how many Dreads are there in HiSec?

I know of one.

Quick, to the Attack Battlecruisers and Sentry Drone VNIs!

I suspect there are lots of high sec capitals still. As liz pointed out you aren't allowed to use them in pvp and you aren't allowed to sell them. Mine is getting very dusty sitting in station.

As far as devs confirmed, only L and XL citadels will support market modules