EVE General Discussion

It's fun to read about the growth, development, and expansion of the races of New Eden, but it seems at some point that all of that died off and the EVE universe is very static.

Will there ever be expansions into new space, construction of new star gates, faction wars that actually result in the loss or gain of new systems. The early days of each faction was filled with advances in technology and innovation. Now, we have the same old stuff everywhere we look. Where's the mystery? Oh, you mean Incursions? With regard to incursions, does anything actually change other than players repelling the same old stuff event after event with no real long term effects?

How about advances in technology, new POS systems, etc.... Seems like progress in New Eden came to some crashing halt a while back and now we're going to be walking in stations!!! YAY

-- My two cents...

No... No Hillmar here... move along.

We have many advances in fabulous fashion. What more do you want?

Its amazing how powerful having a great back story and lore can be.

Just look at Lotro.

Apart from having beautiful and sometimes breath taking landscapes, it is average in everyway and yet because of the back story, because of the lore, it has lasted a lot longer, and had more success then its had any right to.

Look at the up and coming new Star Wars MMO, SWTOR. I have played the beta, an it is nothing but a out and out WoW Clone but with a Star Wars skin and I am not the only who has this opinion.

Like Lotro is is very average and is not ground breaking in anyway, however everybody knows financially it will be a monster success and this is due in a large part its lore and back story.

STO is another MMO which heavily relies on its lore and backstory.

Again nothing special and has been slated by and large but it has over 80k subs (based on xfire) and will grow a lot when it goes to F2P.

The developers of these games know how powerful the lore and back stories are in making these games a success and in pulling new people in so they make it an active part of the game.

So for all that is Holy why you are not doing the same CCP?

Eve has an amazing lore and back story to it and yet you have seemingly abandoned it.

Okay peope will point to Incursions.. well they only effect a player if he choses to take part and thats it.

I would love to see CCP get back to continuing the Eve Story and to shape the game around it. So the Eve universal feels like a living entity instead of feeling so static.

This would be a great Marketing tool within itself. Borders changing, border skirmishes between factions, more pirate factions NPC's with sleeper AI.. Come on use your imagination as you have proved in the past that you are damn good at it.

You can never have enough background lore, and Eve needs more - preferably not written by Tony G.

We are the lore.

There should be a lot of awesome stuff that have happened in the game, there are videos floating around atleast. Would be cool if someone took their time to write some of that stuff.

That's what I am talking about... while players do have a certain impact on other players, we really don't have that much impact on the game in general. You can't beat Concord, build your own jump gate, find/secure systems that aren't already existing, develop new weaponry... etc. You are very much confined to some mechanics (and in some cases mechanics for the sake of mechanics).
Imagine what EVE would be like if you could take systems from Gallente or Amarr? What if you could build your own jump gates? Incursions would have been much better if territory was actually being overtaken by the Sansha... but, as it is, the Sansha are just a nuisance rather than a real threat.

Those are good questions.... but, are we allowed to find out? Why can't we do something similar? Sure, there's still plenty of mystery, but what good will it do with EVE being "locked" in the way it is? There really isn't room for "true" sandbox expansion here.