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Venture is Primary
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2015-12-19 13:39:49 UTC
Hello.

I've made a post about the same situation on reddit but didn't get any interesting feedback, so here it goes.

Was just wondering if any one else seen that done by CCP. http://imgur.com/a/Rckf2
First pic was taken yesterday(18/12/2015), at ‏‎16:12:10 and the second at ‏‎21:30:22.
It's ‏‎01:11:39(19/12/2015) and there is another undercut http://imgur.com/Vm9gKJV
It's ‏‎‏‎12:57:31(19/12/2015) and there is another undercut http://imgur.com/Bugiq3Y (as you can see there are some more people getting in).
The item is Data Sheets.

Thanks.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#2 - 2015-12-19 16:42:24 UTC
iirc, NPC prices rise when someone buys from from, then slowly fall again. with a variance of around 15% around the middle.

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Paul Pohl
blue media poetry
#3 - 2015-12-20 01:43:11 UTC
Hello.....

You want to buy or sell 14,000 of something, and someone wants to buy or sell 32 of the same the same thing....

You are not being undercut....

And if it bothers you, buy them out or set your price accordingly

CCP are not targeting you

Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#4 - 2015-12-20 05:51:19 UTC
This thread is gold.

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.

Venture is Primary
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2015-12-22 13:47:20 UTC
Paul Pohl wrote:
Hello.....

You want to buy or sell 14,000 of something, and someone wants to buy or sell 32 of the same the same thing....

You are not being undercut....

And if it bothers you, buy them out or set your price accordingly

CCP are not targeting you



Welcome to eve mate.

Check the images once again, and try setting an order for a year (365 days).
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#6 - 2015-12-22 15:09:24 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
iirc, NPC prices rise when someone buys from from, then slowly fall again. with a variance of around 15% around the middle.
This is what is happening.

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Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2015-12-22 16:27:04 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
iirc, NPC prices rise when someone buys from from, then slowly fall again. with a variance of around 15% around the middle.
This is what is happening.

Ok, thanks.
Capsuleer Service Executive
Nornir Research
#8 - 2015-12-23 05:42:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Capsuleer Service Executive
http://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=373077&find=unread

I think this will enlighten you. Focus on the part about the spread orders to protect against reset.


Has anyone else noticed the NPC commodity markets are thriving?


/cse

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Jdestars
Stars Research systems Incorporation
#9 - 2016-01-26 14:06:17 UTC
its not a bug but a normal game mechanical implanted at the begining of Eve.

When we were less p^lay than today , There was more order npc and the price of theire ordre follow the demand of play ...
as shows it good your screen shot ;)
so you can play with differente regional market , hub its bad for that with npc ;)
Caleb Ayrania
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#10 - 2016-01-26 15:49:56 UTC
NPC seeded item.. so not a market pvp product..

The idea with a lot of npc seeds is that there are drops of the item, and you have sinks in some production, so you have to range your buys and fit your reselling accordingly. Basically its not ccp/npc competing with you, its you not properly pricing and competing with ccp/npc.

Ideally you should buy those on say region range, at around 50% of npc and mean value, then as stacks grow you can sell them back for hauling or use in production/research.


Sadly we still have npc seeds on scc market, and I believe they should all be removed at put in the "LP stores"-.. The mechanics are antiquated and poorly AI/dynamic controlled, so in most regards they are useless.

Tradegoods and "Livestock" should be integrated into Planets as a player created/upgraded item.. and considered as parts of future integration with other CCP brands 1 shard economy concepts..
Mara Villoso
Long Jump.
#11 - 2016-01-26 18:18:06 UTC
Caleb Ayrania wrote:

Sadly we still have npc seeds on scc market, and I believe they should all be removed at put in the "LP stores"-.. The mechanics are antiquated and poorly AI/dynamic controlled, so in most regards they are useless.

Tradegoods and "Livestock" should be integrated into Planets as a player created/upgraded item.. and considered as parts of future integration with other CCP brands 1 shard economy concepts..

I get your point, but this is entry-level arbitrage for noobs. Quafe isn't integral to the world, but giving people a seed to grow their wallet and travel around hisec is a good thing.