Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I was completely flabbergasted after reading this post from you. Clearly you've never been in business for yourself before or been in any managerial position. Otherwise you would've already learned after failing miserably that without loyalty and dedication for the regular customers, no business cannot sustain themselves for very long. Sure after selling out your loyal customer base, you could manage to get by ......for a short while but after everything settles down you're gonna hit rock bottom.

My advice for you is to never ever try to start a business for yourself, at least not while you still have this mentality.

OP, can I have your SP when you ragequit (and your stuff, too) when this proposal is completely ignored?

No way to this.

I say this is just the start, get rid of subscription and get more people into the game. That's what's needed, more people in ships they feel can compete with.

More fleets, more content. Giving newer people a option to not be overwhelmed by what they can't fly. Sure it'll be a turkey shoot for awhile but they'll get better, usually only takes a few good kills to get hooked.

I can't see any problems with this.

Not to be overwhelmed by what they can't fly? You mean they won't be overwhelmed by the 1,000 USD ships flown by IRL rich people (Rain, I know you will.) they will encounter with their Rifter they get for free? Sometimes, the denseness of people is utterly staggering.

You must have an incredible foresight then.

Has anybody mentioned adding a tab to the Character Info window? Perhaps injected skill points should be listed easily somewhere? That way, you know the 5-day old that just jumped into your system really is flying cloaky Tengu and is getting ready to hot-drop you!

I believe when plexes came out people thought that was going to be the end of eve. It wasnt.

On SP specifically, I believe the way the system will work is people will have to train up sp on characters and the limit is 5 mil to pull sp. meaning about 90-120 days invested in a sp alt before you can start pulling sp. So its not like a buch of people are going to create new characters plex it for a month and pull all the sp.

SP in eve isnt as important as training in other games. It gives you a slight edge at higher levels and that is working as intended. One of the biggest problems with MMOs is the "vets" can slaughter everyone in the game. Meaning everyone rushes to the end game because that is the only point in which you are even viable. In eve you are viable with low sp and high sp. Sp is a system that allows you to use tools in the game to do things. you still have to have the skill and ability to do them.

And we do not know what CCP has in store. They are doing some major things in eve. These may bring a lot of new skills in and they may feel for their expansion plan of eve that the current rate of training may be to slow for some players. I am sure the sp injection fits into a long term expansion goal.

People always panic over big changes like this. And it doesnt have the huge negative effect on their gameplay they thought it would. If people want to shoot their characters up with sp, let them go for it. Its going to make no more difference than the difference between a 80 mil sp pilot and a 20 mil sp pilot does now.

Supply and demand will even out how much its used. If there is a lot of demand and the price is high then people will create alts to use for SP. If their is to much SP being pumped in the game the price of sp will fall and it will no longer be more profitable than just buying and selling plexes.

I would use an injector here and there but only if i thought the price was worth it. I wouldnt spend billions of isk to save 30-60 days of training time though.