EVE General Discussion

No fear of bubbles and losing those expensive implants upon blowing up must be nice. Is this considered PvP with an asterisk beside it?

Some of the smuggest and cockiest people I've met and seen come from lowsec. Battleships? Yeah, no bombs in lowsec. High-grade Snake pods? Yeah, it's next to impossible to catch them in lowsec.

Low-sec PvP is easy mode?

No.
It's more of a lateral move from null-sec PvP.

Some risks and benefits go away and other risks and benefits pop up.


No more bubbles? Okay, sure, your pod is now quite safe. But it is also very, very hard to stop people from Leeroying into a system you are defending.

No more bombs? Okay... you can now use bigger ships without fear of being erased by a small squad of unseen ships. But you also have to deal with the reality that others can use the same ships to create medium-sized wrecking-balls of destruction... and there is no easy way to deal with them.

NPC stations everywhere? Okay, you no longer have to fear about your station being conquered and thus be locked out from your stuff. But you also have to deal with the reality that your enemies can pretty much live in the same station as you do and can see you whenever you undock.

More people and things to do? Okay, you have more entertainment. But you also have to deal with the fact that there is always a hostile of some kind in your system and you will never be able to "clear local" or be without hostiles in system. Ever.
(NOTE: this is why low-sec players laugh at null-sec people about AFK-cloakers... we deal with that reality everyday)

Easier logistics? Okay, you have more security in what things you have and can easily procure something you need. But your enemies have the same ability and you can't really stop them.

Thanks for the reminder on why 99% of the thread in GD suck.

Different types of pvp in eve explained:

*High Sec PVP - I like to feel safe when i pvp
*Low Sec PVP - I'll wait here for easy targets.
*Faction Warfare PVP- Kamikaze, that is all.
* NPC Null PVP - i want to do real pvp, but i dont want you to take my stuff.
* Sov PVP- I have my own stuff.... but i want yours also.
*Wormhole PVP - Im a ninja!


Edit to Add: Each "type" of pvp has its advantages and disadvantages. And its unlikely you will convince someone that does a certain type of pvp that yours is better. IMO, No rules PVP or its not PVP. But really it comes down to what type you have the most fun doing. Would you rather hunt target in high sec. like a hound hunting a fox? Would you rather try to catch people at a low sec gate trying to take that shortcut to save them 7 jumps? Would you rather go in guns blazing and see what you can kill before you die? Do you want to pvp with no rules, but you dont want to have to constantly fight to keep your stuff? Do you want to fight for your right to be in that space and try to take over other's space? Do you like lurking in the shadows waiting for someone to enter to try to run a site or mine? Only to have you show up out of nowhere guns blazing and without mercy?

As someone who has lived in and pirated in lowsec for almost 2 years, this is 100% true, its not easier, its just as hard only in different ways (And its wayyyy more fun!) You can either go out in a t3 if you have cash to occasionally burn, or just use a t1 frig for some fun kills! I dont really know anywhere in null that you can do solo t1 frig pvp and be successful (Possibly NPC, but idk).
Plus the people there tend to have much more RL SP than the null bears so, experience is your winner, SP comes second.

Returning player here; is this a new/coming change, or why is this suddenly posted like its a new thing? I am not trolling, I am seriously asking.

Who bought your character?

Honestly you will find most low sec pvpers tend to prey on the same types of people that wardeccers do. These are almost always "carebears" or people trying to sneak in or through low sec for various non pvp activities. In null if you have a small gang roaming around you much more likely to get a fight from other pvpers.

Null pvpers tend to be more experienced at pvp but less adapt to solo pvp.

In some ways null pvp is more hardcore. In others lowsec pvp ( or null npc) would be harder. In null if you have 5 neuts in system they are likely there to kill you. In lowsec if you have 5 neuts in system only 1 or 2 may be out to kill you. the rest may be managing a POS, trying to ninja rat, in a dock doing various station activities or just passing through on their way to somewhere else.

As it was said. They are different types of pvp. I do consider low sec pvp to be easier because you never run the risk of losing access to the dock. So you can always sneak in and collect your things and sneak out. Whereas in null if you dont have docking rights or a JC, your not getting back in the dock unless you take it back.

Everyone thinks their kind of PvP is the most hardcore.