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Eve Mining Toolkit - Dramatic ISK/Hour Gains

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Asyssa Stargazer
CAREBEAR INTERNATIONAL
#1 - 2016-01-24 22:43:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Asyssa Stargazer
Hello fellow capsuleers.

"Eve Mining Toolkit" is an out-of-game utility to help miners dramatically increase their mining yields.

The premise is simple:

Miners typically waste a lot of time mining asteroids that are actually depleted. EMT is timing utility that will provide an audible notice when asteroids are empty prompting you to switch your mining lasers to the next target.

In my testing this has resulted in an ISK/hour increase in the 20% - 40% range...the smaller the asteroids in the belt the larger the noticeable improvement in yield.

EMT is designed to run atop the Eve client in Windowed/Fixed Window modes and features transparency sliders to limit the obstruction of the game client.


You may download the latest version of Eve Mining Toolkit (Build 1.0.0.86) here:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_4V01dJMyw4VzBFNFI5MVJSRms

Please do not be alarmed at the Windows Smart Screen warning when attempting to run the application. The application is not currently digitally signed and has not built a reputation.

Checksum (SHA1):
bd49a9d6925fece95e2ed7c41728d589cf3639e3 *Eve Mining Toolkit.zip

Content:
c4a53863da3159026de742acc5c81f25cb0f09ca *Eve Mining Toolkit.exe
18f1b290c27f46c46c42bdc81ed7540ec06b0d65 *EMT Quick Guide.pdf
5103545882c7efa49afbb5bbe94a6762496e2bdc *EMT_Prices.txt
839ec474a2f340e70ba25de7caec693509127b04 *EMT_Settings.txt


EMT is a great companion to the excellent Eve Isk Per Hour tool (Eve IPH) and will import pricing data saved by Eve IPH.

Eve IPH is available here: https://eveiph.github.io
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#2 - 2016-01-25 03:11:24 UTC
Asyssa Stargazer wrote:

Miners typically waste a lot of time mining asteroids that are actually depleted. EOT is timing utility that will provide an audible notice when asteroids are empty prompting you to switch your mining lasers to the next target.


Can you make an audible notice when someone enters local?
Asyssa Stargazer
CAREBEAR INTERNATIONAL
#3 - 2016-01-25 03:42:24 UTC
Thor Kerrigan wrote:


Can you make an audible notice when someone enters local?


It may be possible however it is beyond my current programming abilities.
Sturmwolke
#4 - 2016-01-25 05:20:30 UTC
Post should be in EVE Technology lab section - if legit. Reasoning for "public" alpha testing is a little thin as there are other avenues that work just as fine, nor is it truly necessary for "everyone" to get involved in an alpha.
With no source code published, expecting a user to keep faith that no malwares, backdoor or data capture algorithm included in the download only works for the security ignorant.
Capsups
Atomic Mangocorp
#5 - 2016-01-25 08:41:55 UTC
I think this is borderline EULA non-compliant with the mining timer. Before you posted this thread, did you post a support ticket to the GMs asking if this is allowed? I would if I were you atleast.

Thor Kerrigan wrote:
Asyssa Stargazer wrote:

Miners typically waste a lot of time mining asteroids that are actually depleted. EOT is timing utility that will provide an audible notice when asteroids are empty prompting you to switch your mining lasers to the next target.


Can you make an audible notice when someone enters local?


I am however, 99.99% certain that this is not allowed according to the EULA. I remember the Eve Bacon software that had this feature and many other that weren't exactly legal and that software was pretty much outlawed on the forums if I remember right.
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2016-01-25 11:03:08 UTC
Agreed with Capsups, this may very well be against the EULA. Though the EVE Bacon thing was deemed illegal because it used game logs. This seems like it uses visual data on the screen to send out an alert or something. Please talk to CCP before developing this any further, OP. Would be a shame to waste your time on something that isn't allowed to be used.

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Mintoko
Taedium In Perpetuam
#7 - 2016-01-25 11:19:02 UTC
I doubt there will be anything wrong with it as you're manually copy/pasting the scanner information to the application and manually adjusting the queue. It's exactly the same thing I was doing with excel. Although, I don't understand why the application would need to be on top of the eve window.

As long as it's not directly reading/manipulating the screen or making use of eve's log files, you should be good.
Asyssa Stargazer
CAREBEAR INTERNATIONAL
#8 - 2016-01-25 12:50:45 UTC
Capsups wrote:
I am however, 99.99% certain that this is not allowed according to the EULA. I remember the Eve Bacon software that had this feature and many other that weren't exactly legal and that software was pretty much outlawed on the forums if I remember right.



While I understand your concern I am 100% confident this application is completely legal as it does not interact with the Eve Online client in any way whatsoever.

I merely make a call to the Clipboard.GetText() .NET method after the user has pressed CTRL-C within the game client.

Everything else is merely math based on your mining rate and a stopwatch.

I do not send any commands to the game and there is no botting or automating of any game functions.
Asyssa Stargazer
CAREBEAR INTERNATIONAL
#9 - 2016-01-25 12:53:26 UTC
Mintoko wrote:
I doubt there will be anything wrong with it as you're manually copy/pasting the scanner information to the application and manually adjusting the queue. It's exactly the same thing I was doing with excel. Although, I don't understand why the application would need to be on top of the eve window.

As long as it's not directly reading/manipulating the screen or making use of eve's log files, you should be good.


You are correct. There is no log or client interaction. I too was using Excel along with an external stopwatch before developing this application.

The application doesn't necessarily have to run on top of the Eve window but it provides a nice graphical countdown progress bar for the mining laser and cargohold capacity. You could also run it on a separate computer entirely if you wanted to manually type in the ore values.
Asyssa Stargazer
CAREBEAR INTERNATIONAL
#10 - 2016-01-25 12:55:11 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
Agreed with Capsups, this may very well be against the EULA. Though the EVE Bacon thing was deemed illegal because it used game logs. This seems like it uses visual data on the screen to send out an alert or something. Please talk to CCP before developing this any further, OP. Would be a shame to waste your time on something that isn't allowed to be used.


Thank you for your concern. I will explore avenues for getting this approved by CCP to include providing them with the source code if requested.
Asyssa Stargazer
CAREBEAR INTERNATIONAL
#11 - 2016-01-25 13:26:43 UTC
Thank you for all of your concerns. I literally did not consider that this program might be a EULA violation as it does not touch the game client in any way. In fact it could be run on a completely separate computer if desired.

To avoid any negative repercussions I have submitted a GM ticket to CCP along with the source code for their review.

I will adhere to any guidance they provide and let you all know if there are any issues or concerns.
Centis Adjani
Adjani Corporation
#12 - 2016-01-25 14:14:07 UTC
My Virus Scan Program told me the 'EveOrTimer.Zip' contain the Virus named: Trojan:Win32/Spursint.A
Jenshae Chiroptera
#13 - 2016-01-25 14:21:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Miners you could just mine in Null Sec or Worm Holes and have HUGE asteroids that only deplete after HOURS of laser blasting.

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Cristl
#14 - 2016-01-25 15:03:44 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Miners you could just mine in Null Sec or Worm Holes and have HUGE asteroids that only deplete after HOURS of laser blasting.
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Asyssa Stargazer
CAREBEAR INTERNATIONAL
#15 - 2016-01-25 15:34:58 UTC
Centis Adjani wrote:
My Virus Scan Program told me the 'EveOrTimer.Zip' contain the Virus named: Trojan:Win32/Spursint.A


My Antivirus program (Avast) reports the zip file contains no threats.

What antivirus program are you using and which file does it claim is infected?
Asyssa Stargazer
CAREBEAR INTERNATIONAL
#16 - 2016-01-25 15:36:26 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Miners you could just mine in Null Sec or Worm Holes and have HUGE asteroids that only deplete after HOURS of laser blasting.


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Asyssa Stargazer
CAREBEAR INTERNATIONAL
#17 - 2016-01-25 15:50:34 UTC
Asyssa Stargazer wrote:
Centis Adjani wrote:
My Virus Scan Program told me the 'EveOrTimer.Zip' contain the Virus named: Trojan:Win32/Spursint.A


My Antivirus program (Avast) reports the zip file contains no threats.

What antivirus program are you using and which file does it claim is infected?


It does not surprise me that your antivirus software flags the application as suspect as there were times during development my virus software would complain during debugging.

If you are uncomfortable using the software at this stage I would advise you to wait until the application is complete at which point I will release the source code to the community in the hopes it will be enhanced beyond my capabilities.

With source in hand which you could review and compile the application yourself to remove any suspicion.
ISD Buldath
#18 - 2016-01-25 15:55:57 UTC
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#19 - 2016-01-25 19:56:43 UTC
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#20 - 2016-01-25 22:37:05 UTC
Asyssa Stargazer wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Miners you could just mine in Null Sec or Worm Holes and have HUGE asteroids that only deplete after HOURS of laser blasting.


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