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Best choice amongst Caldari T2 cruisers

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#61 - 2016-01-22 10:06:57 UTC
Altair Taurus wrote:
"If you are smart" is not enough because game mechanics is against you all the time:

- you will be fighting alone against many
- your PvE fitted Tengu is defenseless against PvP fitted enemy ships hunting you
- I personally do not multibox which is a huge disadvantage in Eve (no scouting alts, no intel etc.)
- maybe deep null-sec is mostly empty space but null-sec entrances and choke points are almost always camped...


Hey I think that is my job description - solo pvp.

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Jace Varus
Lemur Appreciation Society
#62 - 2016-01-22 14:47:43 UTC
Altair Taurus wrote:
"If you are smart" is not enough because game mechanics is against you all the time:

- you will be fighting alone against many
- your PvE fitted Tengu is defenseless against PvP fitted enemy ships hunting you
- I personally do not multibox which is a huge disadvantage in Eve (no scouting alts, no intel etc.)
- maybe deep null-sec is mostly empty space but null-sec entrances and choke points are almost always camped, believe me!

That's why I came to conclusion it is unwise to risk over 1 bil. ISK (Tengu+implants) in null-sec adventures. Playing solo I can risk maybe cov-ops frigates and interceptors for null-sec trips but not fifty times more expensive ships. Unfortunately non-combat exploration is barely worthwhile. Surely multiboxing players being members of null-sec alliances can run Tengus in null-sec because of much better security. Not me...


-Not nessicarily. Even if so, a T3 cruiser is very powerful and capable.
-If you PVE fit an Onyx you wouldn't be able to deal with PVP ships just as much, regardless of your tank.
-Neither do I.
-Nullified + Covert ops Tengu = cannot be caught unless a massive smartbomb fleet is on a gate.

As for the yacht, it will not get podded, because it is literally 10 times faster than a Tengu. But whatever.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#63 - 2016-01-22 16:59:10 UTC
Jace Varus wrote:

-Nullified + Covert ops Tengu = cannot be caught unless a massive smartbomb fleet is on a gate.

you forget human error and getting out payed, both are far more common than you would think
Altair Taurus
#64 - 2016-01-23 23:20:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Altair Taurus
elitatwo wrote:
....two years from now you will regret saying that you didn't need a Stratios - if EVE didn't go offline in the meantime.


You are right! I am afraid EVE Online is collapsing: exploration becomes dangerous and unprofitable, running level 4 missions is boring and PvP is easier and/or more exciting in WoW and WoT...I am not sure I will play EVE anymore.



BTW - I flew my VYL across NPC null-sec and I can say gate-camps there are not as dangerous for nullified boats as I thought before. I met gate-camps quite often but usually they pose minimal threat because typical gate-camp consists of one to three dilettantes (interdictor, pirate/T2 frigate, tactical destroyer) so VLY can pass them by like a ghost.
Altair Taurus
#65 - 2016-01-26 23:29:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Altair Taurus
I finished Caldari recon cruisers training and acquired Rook. I did not purchase Falcon because this is pure ECM platform. Rook is quite interesting beast! With slightly pimped-out fit (cheap Pithum-C Medium Shield Booster + T2 modules) I get around 850 DPS tank against Guristas (cap stable!). Its damage with T2 HAMs and drones is close to 600 DPS. I suppose my Rook can run all Guristas high-sec and low-sec DEDs. All in all I will test-use both my T2 cruisers in high-sec combat exploration:

- Rook - against Guristas
- Onyx - against Serpentis

for a week long period to see if I can earn some serious ISK in contrary to my catastrophic experience so far. I have also decided to postpone Basilisk and Cerberus/Eagle training because this seems pointless (certainly I am not a logi pilot and Onyx/Rook can work great as HAC's replacement in PvE). In return I have just begun another amazing T2 ships training:

- Gallente interceptor and incidentally covert-ops frigate (Ares & Helios)
- Minmatar interdictor (Sabre)

This will take me about a month. Next I will think about training one of Marauders...
Glathull
Warlock Assassins
#66 - 2016-01-30 18:37:08 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Then there's the whole teach a man to fish thing . . . .


I always liked the fire thing better than the fishing thing.


Build a fire for a man, and he'll stay warm for a night. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon