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To earn ISK, what is worth doing in this game?..

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Amber Starview
Doomheim
#21 - 2016-01-22 13:15:50 UTC
You are part of huge blue donut ? But are worried about a neutral in local

Why not do activities with your corpies and if they can't/won't help find another Corp
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#22 - 2016-01-22 13:35:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Chasida wrote:
Just to clearify; my toon is BROKE! I need to make ISK to function! Got less then 10 mill right now!

I am not asking on advice on how to stockpile ISK like that is the point of the game. I live in null space, and I do not have ISK! Belt ratting is SLOW! Doing cosmic sigs give little ISK, if you arent very lucky and get a rare blueprint etc. Most of the stuff I find in belts or sites arent even wanted in the market in nullsec. In home systems there are neutrals in local 24/7. This is what frustrates me! It looks like no matter what I do, I use more ISK then I earn...

I got the impression that doing data/relic sites gave good ISK, far more then belt ratting, but so far I do not see much of that phat ISK. The only thing I know so far that does give good ISK is escalations, which I cannot run due to a ship fitted for a 10/10 cost 1+ billion ISK, and are very deadly in null sec.

I have been playing with the idea of going neutral, and going back to high sec, trying to find a remote/little unused part of high sec/low sec/null sec (if such a thing even exist), where I can do site/escalations, while I at the same time duo with an alt and I skill him up...

Simply put; I do not know what to do to earn ISK, why I made the post...

Instead of sperging on a forum you should be asking your alliance mates to give you a VNI or mining ship fit appropriate for your space, or just use Google.... It's easier for a new player to make isk in null now than at any time in the past.

If you're having trouble making isk right now in this age of upgraded systems with respawning combat and mining anomalies, you better be glad you started playing EVE now rather than when I did. Because you wouldn't make it.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#23 - 2016-01-22 13:39:24 UTC
Chasida wrote:
Just to clearify; my toon is BROKE! I need to make ISK to function! Got less then 10 mill right now!

So mining is out of the question then
Keno Skir
#24 - 2016-01-22 13:43:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Keno Skir
With ten mil you could Mine, Rat, Start building mission standings, start exploration, loads of stuff.

It seems your actual question is "how can i make LOADS of isk without doing very much if anything hard to get it". This is not a realistic attitude to eve. Suggest you go back and re-read all the suggestions so far and actually try one of them. Ratting in nul should net you way more than 10mil in about 20minutes. Don;t see what the issue is aside from you being a bit lazy and spending more than you can be bothered to make.

Nobody here is going to just plonk an easy job with great profits on your lap, go out and find your fortune.

EDIT : How were you planning to start incursions in hisec if a 10/10 ship is too pricey? Incursions will require a similar priced vessel.. :/
Rykker Bow
Center for Advanced Studies
#25 - 2016-01-22 14:48:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Rykker Bow
Market trading. Station trading. It's a somewhat tough learning curve, but this is eve and we're used to that.

Pros: it's an end game isk tactic. The infrastructure can be continually built up to obscene amounts of 50-100b profits a month. Can be very profitable in just a few weeks depending on your starting amount. The strategy is very stable and methodical after you've settled in. Once stable, it can be started and stopped with minimal effort

Cons: it's a frustrating learning curve. You make very little isk the first few weeks while learning with a low starting amount. The first few months are a balance between reinvesting profits and spending. It's a 10 key click fest.

The Mjolnir Bloc - Lowsec PvP for the sophisticated - The Mjolnir Bloc Killboards

Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2016-01-22 15:59:55 UTC
Quick ISK injection --> buy & sell a PLEX

Stable income --> anything really, the key point is either finding something that you enjoy doing, or do different ISK-making activities so you don't get bored. Making ISK is part of the game and should be fun, even if (like me) you prefer destroying ISK (PVP). So best to have some fun while doing it, else it'll become a chore and you'll hate logging on.

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!

Paranoid Loyd
#27 - 2016-01-22 16:32:29 UTC
Take things from the ignorant and greedy. Pirate

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#28 - 2016-01-22 16:36:33 UTC
Chasida wrote:

I am a player that need to see advancement in the MMOs I play, or I just get frustrated and leave.


Given your apparent unwillingness to actually do anything, I figure you're not long for this game, so here's an option: Right before you quit again, send me all of your ISK and assets. I will invest this on your behalf and, when you return again, present it back to you, with interest, minus a small management fee. Pirate

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#29 - 2016-01-22 17:54:28 UTC
Chasida wrote:
I am curious, since I need to make isk (returning player). I currently live in null sec alliance btw.

What is worth doing? Ice mining? Gas mining? PvP (not likely)? Missions (not likely, and will take weeks to get to high lvl missions)? Wormholing (does not look like it)? DED/cosmic sites (hasnt the market collapsed?)? Incursions? Scamming the trade market?

Sadly, listening to some players, the last one, scamming (and buying selling clearly wrongly priced items) may be the only way to make some fast isk in this game, but this is not my thing, neither in RL nor in a game.

The only other thing I know so far that may be a good income is incursions, but where I live (null sec), this is dangerous and need to team up more or less (or use a absurd expensive ship, which I do NOT have, nor can buy, nor will risk).

I am currently considering starting up a new account on my second computer (can play 2 at once), and was considering duoing WH/nullsec sites/incursions, but I am not sure its worth it after reading a lot of posts. Maybe I should just move back to high sec and hunt for incursions with 2 accounts?

I am honestly and sincerely in need of advice people, how can I make a good income of ISK in this game in its current state a la 2016?And what I mean by that is in the 100s of millions pr week, anything lower then easily 100-200 mills a week is waste of time, you can get that by one scam/lucky buy on the market.

I am a player that need to see advancement in the MMOs I play, or I just get frustrated and leave. So please help me out here; what should I put my time into doing to earn ISK!? And if its like gass mining or DED hunting, Incursions etc, please give me some good advice on ships to use (remember I can play 2 accounts/computers). I have read A LOT of posts about which ships to use, and I am going in circles! The main/current account is Caldari, have not made a second account yet.

Obi-wan Kenobi, I am in need of help...please help...



When I saw "nullsec alliance" I though "run anoms".

Seriously though, a good nullsec alliance should give you some opportunity to run some anoms and get your ISK up. Is there a restriction against that? If so, do they have a ship replacement program? Probably the worst situation an Eve player can end up in is to be in an alliance that won't let you run some means of ISK earning but expect you to pay for all of your own ships. Then after you use alts or find some means of ISK earning, you get ordered via fleet engagements to send your ship into the meat grinder.

Thus you should consider perhaps that your affairs are not in order, and that the overall situation you are in needs to change. If you are not getting some opportunity to make some ISK in nullsec by some arbitrary restriction, you might consider joining another alliance.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Pryce Caesar
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2016-01-22 18:12:40 UTC
Chasida wrote:
Just to clearify; my toon is BROKE! I need to make ISK to function! Got less then 10 mill right now!

I am not asking on advice on how to stockpile ISK like that is the point of the game. I live in null space, and I do not have ISK! Belt ratting is SLOW! Doing cosmic sigs give little ISK, if you arent very lucky and get a rare blueprint etc. Most of the stuff I find in belts or sites arent even wanted in the market in nullsec. In home systems there are neutrals in local 24/7. This is what frustrates me! It looks like no matter what I do, I use more ISK then I earn...

I got the impression that doing data/relic sites gave good ISK, far more then belt ratting, but so far I do not see much of that phat ISK. The only thing I know so far that does give good ISK is escalations, which I cannot run due to a ship fitted for a 10/10 cost 1+ billion ISK, and are very deadly in null sec.

I have been playing with the idea of going neutral, and going back to high sec, trying to find a remote/little unused part of high sec/low sec/null sec (if such a thing even exist), where I can do site/escalations, while I at the same time duo with an alt and I skill him up...

Simply put; I do not know what to do to earn ISK, why I made the post...


Take a look at your skills. See what ships you can fly, look at what ships you have.

Use what ships you have in order to make enough income in order to fit out a ship that can reliably survive a Haven from whatever faction is in your space (preferably a Navy Issue or Tech 2 Cruiser). Fit it, do three to four Haven anomalies, and you can easily get a ball-park of 80-120 million ISK per day in less than three hour's time (each Haven should take only 40 minutes a piece, depending on spawns).

BOOM. You are no longer broke, and you have a steady and stable means of income.

The alternative, if you don't have any ships to use in Null-Sec, is to engage in activities with another toon in High-Sec, and transfer the money over to your other character. Once you have transferred enough money over that way, just repeat the latter steps from what I stated above.

I should know, because I was in that kind of situation a while back.

The only thing to be careful about is to keep track of who is who in the area of space you are ratting anomalies in.

As for data and relic sites, the income depends on what kind of site you are doing it in, and how many you do.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#31 - 2016-01-22 18:43:51 UTC
Me.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Tweek Etimua
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2016-01-22 20:09:17 UTC
I enjoy soloing in FW. How ever I suck at eve so the money I earn from LP and the money i loose from blowing up equals out.
Orlacc
#33 - 2016-01-22 21:23:12 UTC
Do missions. Kill rats. Play the market. Quite frankly if you cant make isk in EVE Maple Storyis looking for a few good men.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."

Demolishar
United Aggression
#34 - 2016-01-22 22:21:24 UTC
Buy PLEX for cash, sell it for ISK.

You are too far behind to ever catch up. That's a fact. Just supply people with me with what we need.
Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#35 - 2016-01-22 23:18:58 UTC
When I first left HS to go to null a few years ago, I did nothing but scout out trade routes, set up tactical bookmarks, etc. For corp/alliance mates. Not only did I get hundreds of millions of 'thank you' ISK from it, but it was more exciting than mining, and I ended up with a decent set of personal bookmarks around the region myself.
Ardevealca
Doomheim
#36 - 2016-01-22 23:23:01 UTC
Chasida wrote:


Obi-wan Kenobi, I am in need of help...please help...

Buy a plex.

Why would you waste your life on grinding virtual currency when you can spend $20 and have fun for months with it?

Let's say you love pvp. Buy a plex, fit a 100 ships and go have fun! With cost of ten million, you can fit hundred properly fitted t1 frigates. If you do fly with others, that 100 fitted ships will last 'forever'.
Ardevealca
Doomheim
#37 - 2016-01-22 23:24:16 UTC
Also pro tip: do not lose ships. Lol
Damjan Fox
Fox Industries and Exploration
#38 - 2016-01-22 23:44:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Damjan Fox
Quote:
how can I make a good income of ISK in this game in its current state a la 2016?And what I mean by that is in the 100s of millions pr week, anything lower then easily 100-200 mills a week is waste of time


"good income", "100-200mil per week", are you serious? Shocked
You live in null and you can't find a way to make "100-200mil per week"?
Run havens for 1-2 hours, do a couple of relic sites, 1 DED site, Gas sites, PI, import/built stuff and sell it to your alliance, even mining for a couple of hours in null will make you that....

I'd have a hard time looking for an activity, that WON'T make a couple hundreds of millions per week.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2016-01-23 00:22:53 UTC
the guy was actually told what to do but looks like the only thing he want is rain of isk fallen from heaven.

you have been told what are usual activities in null which allow you to earn isk but your find those boring and low income? you should really start working with your corp/alli other than complaining here. your organization have logi service which you could use to ship all the loot to Jita and sell it to buy orders. when u have enough isk you could run solo those high end anoms and have fancy loot drops. take your time cause it's not gonna happen that fast as you want. another advise is to change your employment and found those carebear groups in null who operates under protection of blue doughnut.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP

Keno Skir
#40 - 2016-01-23 10:39:53 UTC
Orlacc wrote:
Maple Storyis looking for a few good men.


Had to look up Maple Story to see how bad it is, was impressed with badness.