EVE New Citizens Q&A

1. It is possible, theoretically, to get 1B ISK per month and thus be able to subscribe via PLEX, but in practice it requires 4-8 hours of grinding every day (weekends included) for 30 days, and access to better ships than are available to a brand new newbie during the first month. People always ask this question, and the answer is that it's not easy at all. It's certainly a lot more difficult than working ANY job to gather the 15 euro / dollars required per month.

2. Steam has the following disadvantages compared to a just-EVE account:

- you can't log in if Steam is down, even if the EVE servers are up
- you can't have more than 1 account via Steam
- you can't log in the Steam account AND other pure EVE accounts at the same time on a single computer (some people like to multi-play)

That's weird, I'm currently running 2 accounts on Steam just fine?



It is doable, I'm sure there's a few videos on Youtube that can show you how its done. As others have said though, it will feel like a job, and keeping that up every month can be tiresome. If you want to try it just for the challenge of it, go ahead, no one is stopping you.

Now that I think about it, I had 1 EVE account originally created through the main site, then I turned it into a Steam account a couple of years later (a service which was offered by CCP at the time, I don't know if it still is). I then bought a 2nd account through the main site. I launch both accounts from the launcher via the Steam interface.

Maybe because my account was originally a main site one, which was later turned into a Steam one, is the reason I'm able to run multiple accounts via Steam? If so, you're probably right about Steam players not being able to run multiple accounts and I'm just a freak case.

Damn, this is confusing.

Like other's have said it is possible but most of the players that I know that have tried it wind up quitting the game. I am assuming it is because they think the game is too grindy when it really isn't. They just decided to turn the game into a job and then complain about their choice.

I recommend subbing and paying for the game that way. Learn how to play the game and have fun doing so. If you find that in the process you have enough isk to buy a PLEX then do so. But if you make that your goal from the beginning then this game could get job like.

By far the best way to make ISK to PLEX your account when you have little wealth behind you is scamming.

Yes, someone with knowledge of EVE scams (or that is willing to research them) can steal several billion ISK per month with moderate effort.

Trading again will allow you to.

BUT - make sure you are having fun. You will not enjoy EVE if you are grinding ISK to buy PLEX each month. It will feel like a job. (Scamming can be fun, but you will need to do your own research, be cunning, and be good at it).

He missed the part about game knowledge. A veteran pilot stands a good chance of making a plex worth of ISK in month 1 of a new account because they have hundreds of hours of game time already to base their decisions on. For a new player this is very unlikely since you have HUNDREDS of hours of learning ahead of you before you really get the ins and outs of EvE :P

Steam accounts:

You can get a regular username and password through the secure site, so you can log into Eve, with a steam account, without going through steam, or requiring steam to be up.

Generic advice, we can give.

Telling you exactly how we make the money, so you can become a competitor and under-bid and completely ruin our profits... that's where this game differs from others where everyone's friendly and freely sharing the best loot camping spots.

You can look at the various specific forums: Market, Industry, etc. Making huge sums does involve knowing the game (so you can exploit the knowledge that you have that other people may not have), and sometimes it requires investing some billions in order to get some billions out of it, with the risk of losing it.

If he wants to tell you his secrets, he can, of course. I'd be surprised, though.

I just bought the year upgrade (it's the cheapest) and am giving myself a year to get where I can be good enough to earn free play. I'd be happy with a PLEX every other month, that would bring the cost down to in-line with other MMO's.

There is a seriously steep learning and experimenting curve with this game, so you have to give it time and be prepared to pay for that.

My only complaint about the cost is, it's out of whack with other MMO's that use similar Real Money to game time exchanges. SWTOR has a similar system and you can play that for free with only a few days a month of grinding for in game credits. It also has a much richer "Free to Play" environment.

One of the reasons that I can see why EVE is not as popular is due to the costs, but that's just one among several reasons.

Actually you are quite wrong about eve. In fact you couldnt be more wrong about eve. Four reasons more people dont stick with eve:

1) its not free and everyone wants something for free even if its crap and it always is. $15 a month for this game... is a bloody ******* bargain.

2) It has a steep learning curve. CCP doesnt dumb down their games. Many people want dumbed down clickfests. Eve requires you to think and everything you do has consequences. Eve is the "school of hard knocks" for MMOs. If your looking to be a drone doing a clickfest , farmville is that way>>

3) Eve has real consequences for your actions just like the real world. Many people dont like the fact that making bad decisions cost them.

4) Eve puts a majority of their money into EVE and very little into advertising. They decided to put the profits into making the game better rather than getting a large amount of people to play. Eve is not as well known as many popular games...but they have an award list that looks like the grammy list. None of those are for advertising, all are for gameplay.

I have been playing MMOS since they were text based and graphics were little cartoon pictures in the corner. Ive played most popular MMOs over the last 20 years. Eve is far far superior to all of them and here is why:

1) content - eve has more content than the 5 most popular MMOs combined.

2) customer service- The best customer service of any game ive ever played and far far far superior's to a free to play MMOs.

3) Subscription based - everyone is on the same playing field. Everything is at you disposal that is at everyone elses. Free to play do not have this...They are free to play but you have to pay to actually get anywhere in the game. The popular "game of war" is a prime example of this. Its free to play but your going to get curb stomped repeatedly and never get anywhere unless you repeatedly inject massive amounts of cash into your account... most F2P are now like this. They claim to have a lot of players. but honestly they never delete accounts and they have a lot of inactives with very few players.

4) You are on the same playing field as everyone else. You have the same advantages and disadvantages as everyone else. Injecting isk into your account via plex makes your life easier, but its not going to make you go into god mode... something that is common with cash injection in F2P

5) The skill tree is massive. Taking over 2 decades or something to train all skills( though this is changing). However a 2 year old character can be competitive with a 10 year old character. So the skill system is set up that once you have your core skills down, the rest is up to player skill. not how old( and how skilled your character) is. It is the best skill tree system ever invented.

6) CCP doesnt use cutting edge technology....they invent it.

7) the largest sandbox MMO to ever exist in the history of man.

8) Eve is as modern today as it was 10 years ago. Its constantly being updated in all areas keeping it modern.

9) all content- one price. You never pay for xpacks, you are not limited on what you get with a sub.

10) its possible to make billions and billions in this game per month. Enough for many accounts at the current market price of a plex. But all that depends on you, your playstyle, the amount of time you put in, and your ability to learn.

Edit for 11) Almost forgot. CCP has minimal interference in the game world. There are very few rules and restrictions. They give us the tools, how we use them in our sandbox is completely up to us. Though sometimes they make changes to nudge us in a different direction. But largely they just provide the tools for us to use in our sandbox and let us decide what to do with them.

Eve has players that have been here over a decade. In what other games do you see that kind of player retention? You should base a games worth on its ability to retain players. if it has a high player turn over then its probably a crap game.

The keyword in this game is "LEARN" it is something that is required in this game more than any other. The second keyword is "PATIENCE" It is required to actually get somewhere. You will find no instant gratification in eve. You either work for it or you dont get it.

Content wise, i have been playing 8 years, and i have done many many new things in it.... i still have yet to experience all of eve's content. I have done maybe 2/3 of the professions and been to maybe 1/3 of the systems and i get bored easy so im a pretty diverse player.