EVE New Citizens Q&A

iv been able to get a warpable sig in one pass with combat probes.

the trick is using dscan to find the target with as much precision as possible so you can drop the probes in as tight and accurate a group as possible.

this is easier the larger the sig and particularly easy if theirs a mobile tractor present (those things are like beacons)

were you in low,high,null?
was it a mission or anomaly?
these things effect how easy it can be to find someone.

watch local.

Edit: you can also use bookmarks but this is a long and laborious process

More or less what Ralph said. If you know where target is you can get a 100% read when probing.. takes skills though..

no BM's help if they got a d-scan read on you, as far as I know..

Only way to stay safe in Eve os if you are docked in a station. In space, anything can happen..

What they're saying is that the guy DID have scanner probes out, just in and out so fast that you didn't notice them. He narrowed down your position using directional d-scan and his own safepoints, and then quick probes in and out to get the warp-in.

With accelleration gates he would have warped at the gate, not straight to you, but he could have used the gates to follow your mission into whatever pocket you were, cloaked.

not at the sig radius of a tengu no.

as memphis said, this was a killed prober who figured out roughly where you were and hit you with one pass of probes
if done correctly the probes are only in space for a couple of seconds.
running missions is an active process and has a large enough margin for error (on the hunters side) and you can easily miss them whilst you are locking targets or something similar.

we aren't saying you weren't paying attention (as evident form the lack of a tengu loss on your kill board),
we are saying whomever caught you was damn good.

They very likely determined your proximity to a planet (in most instances, anomalies, DED, etc will spawn within 8 au of a celestial), dropped probes and near-instantly positioned them more than 15 au from any celestial. Then after refining their d scan results on you, they regrouped their probes to about 4-8 au range (less if they were able to get a better read on your position). Assuming high skills and implants, they might nab a 100% on the first pass, but it likely took 2, maybe even 3 since you were in a T3. Still, the probes could have been on grid for maybe 20 seconds (less if they were a bit lucky) and it's easy to miss them.

Other possibilities, you say ou were in a mission, but is it possible that you were in an anomaly or DED site? Is it possible that you had dropped a depot or mtu nearby?

Fascinating discussion!

I use the D-scanner to see what's around me, what types of ships, if they aren't cloaked of course, are out there and to see if anything in generally moving towards me.

Combat Scanner Probes are definitely Red Flags...time to GTFO

That can certainly happen, but it wasn't what happened in this case. I didn't want to complicate it with all the details, however, for the sake of completeness ...

It was before the grid size was increased, and although I called it a safe it was more accurately an off-grid tactical about 1,000km from a busy regional gate in null-sec. The reds knew there was a good chance of traffic on the gate, so they entered from a different gate and immediately dropped probes on the regional gate. I was close enough that they were able to scan me on the first pass - wrong place, wrong time. It also has to be said that their prober is exceptionally fast, and all credit to him.

When i was doing Angel missions in Curse, the sine qua non was the alt in the boosting Loki with the sig radius and sensor strength links fitted. Combine that with a LG Halo set, and you could get your Tengu below the "needs a virtue set" threshold easily enough. The Halos also help with the speed/sig tanking, which is a nice bonus. But dang, did I hate the Minmatar faction rats that hit you with TPs.


And you have a covops cloaked Loki to do your scouting for you, which is nice. It can also sit 100km off the gate and squad warp you, which can shave 1-2 ticks from the "click jump" to "in warp" time.

Made a bunch of ISk doing those missions, never lost a Tengu (or a Loki) either


PS If anyone wants to buy some Dramiel PCs, PM me.

yeah sorry i didn't explain this better.
you could always do this, goes something like this ,
the larger grids just leave a larger margin for error