EVE General Discussion

After your 75% lie, I'm going to ask for a source on that. See, this is what happens when you're obviously careless with the truth, acknowledges it, and doesn't care to rectify anything. And just to make sure you don't try anything funny again: I can probably spot if your source for this claim is as bad as your source for the 75%. A fake source will not work, and will only hurt your credibility even more.

But to the substance of it: I told you why your conspiracy does not hold water, and trying to solve your conspiracy by disenfranchising groups should be reprehensible to everyone. You respond with a claim that CCP doesn't do enough to improve voter turnout. Am I to see this as a tacit acknowledgement that you have realised how wrong you were?

Because who are disputing that CCP should do more? I think there's more to do, like they've done in the past. Dev. blogs. EVE mails. Real mails. YT videos...
But I'm also being realistic about it. There are a lot for whom CSM is just a name for something they don't care about. EVE is just a game, and voting for politicians in a game can seem silly. Those who are interested have plenty of sources, both from CCP and elsewhere, to make up their mind. It doesn't take a lot of effort to get informed, but it does take interest.
And this is really the crucial thing. CCP (And candidates) should work on raising the voter turnout, but we should not kid ourselves about what the CSM means to most people. At some point, we've reached everyone, and those who aren't voting (Remember that a blank vote is a sign that no candidate deserves the vote, while staying at home is a sign of lack of caring or trust) know they could vote, but choose not to.

For a small, loud group, there is 62% of the EVE population who aren't voting. This has not yet been shown to be correct (And I have a hard time seeing how it could), but it's a further question of whether they know about CSM and choose not to vote, or if they're uninformed but would vote if aware.
The first part does not matter, though. The second part is something CCP and candidates can do something about.
Trebor Daehdoow mailed out back when he ran, and I also once got a CSM-election-mail from CCP, though it's currently lost in 62 pages of alliance mails, so I can't find it.
If CCP did that again, and if candidates tried to reach their potential constituents to get out the vote (As especially null-sec coalitions do), you'd see voter turnout rise.

But that is hard work. Posting conspiracies on the EVEO forums is easy.

This is the Eve version of "study it out" and "unskewed polls" right?

I have met more than one CFC director via the test server. I know.
I have seen them and their alliance members using them recently and I have spoken with them.
(If you want more than that, you can suck it. They are some of the few ones I quite like and CFC shot a guy's titan for some pretext + Bat Country, etc)

So the vast majority of players are docked up or in a wormhole ?

Ive seen you toss this trash about before, it runs counter to anything remotely reasonable given the facts presented by the game itself and it makes you look desperate and silly.

Players != characters.

I have 6 characters, all of which I use to some degree or another. 5 of them basically never leave high sec. One of them basically never enters high sec.

If you're pretending that all of my characters are a player, well, gosh, 5/6 players live in high sec!

Except, no. 5/6 "players", in this case, are station-sitting alts because characters are not players.

So CCP have lost control of their came to the CSM? I thought the CSM was powerless and accomplished nothing.

nvm

i love your tash

In the system we trust.
In the system we have no doubts.
The system is clearly perfect.

Have you actually done anything or presented anything concrete yet to disprove anything that I have said?
Your opinion doesn't amount to much.