EVE General Discussion

Been playing EVE since 2005 non-stop, entirely devoted to PVP. For the 1st time ever, I stop playing it!...

You are right, the game has become very risk averse making it very, very boring. So boring that I really I'm not in the mood to play it. Maybe it's just a phase but for someone that was such a hard core player these are news.

What I think are the main problems in EVE?

1) Completely failed sov system. Why go conquer something if it is so dull and you really dont have a reason for it. Make the resources (moon mins, gas clouds whatever being finite and you might have a reason to go conquer something)

2) Super Cap Hyper Inflation. It really killed Sov warfare. The new super cap revamp will not almost for sure adress the main issue. There are simply to many in game.

3) Outposts will be destrutable on a short term. I'm gonna tell you what will happen: during months people will be all happy killing these structures and then, the game will collapse. 0.0 will be really empty cause nobody will want to live in there.

TBH I really don't care at the moment.

If I could get a forth, people need to stop being little Pusskins are cry OP, cry about their experiences, blah, blah.

Thread should be moved to reddit so posts like this could be downvoted and not displayed with the threshold.


Revisit flight/movement physics.

Make brawler ships more agile.

Make kiting ships less agile.

Should help breath new life into PvP, rather than keep it a numbers game - who can move faster, stay out of enemy projection range and keep the enemy in their own projection range.

Giving players more strategy options with the fit they have NOW would help avoid the risk aversion. People blurting out that ECCM is the magic bullet for ECM is one of those fundamental attribution errors. You can't fit ECCM when you are in a fight, which is when you find out that you actually need ECCM. On the flip side, fitting ECCM for every occasion is just upsetting. Especially on ships with limited midslots.

There are too many hard counters and too few soft counters. When everything has been scienced the hell out of, why would you bother engaging something unless you are not uncertain that you will win? #ThisIsEVE

Shifting player density would help too. Can't really help getting blobbed when you jump into a home system during the owners primer time

You have to get through shields first, though ...
... which means a global metashift towards shieldbuffer ...
... to avoid having systems on the ship being attacked.

i whould whitout any form of warnings turn jita into a nullsec system and surrounding systems into lowsec.

than grab my popcorns and watch the forum drama

So I guess i am looking foward to seeing the demise of off grid boosters.

The name of the "Ship Tree" really someone could of came up with a better name.
How about....

CASE

C: Concord
A: Acknowledged
S: Ship
E: Encyclopedia

Just a thought on that.

I’d like to change 4 things. However, last change would just be fun.
1) Micro warp drives: Ships are way too fast. I’ve thought that ever since I first saw a micro warp driving ship back in the day. 500+% bonus to velocity? LOLwut? Of course I’ll fit that to every ship I own. The speed and drawbacks should be less extreme.
2) Remove or Redesign Black ops bridging: Completely broken mechanic. Dude can be afk and un-removable in your system, then suddenly not be afk and have 20 friends backing him up. I’ve been on both sides of this encounter and neither is particularly fun. Without black ops bridging, afk cloakers are no longer a problem.
3) Remove kill boards: The true cause of risk aversion. Also, I shouldn’t be able to look up everything about someone’s flying habits
4) Redesign Rail guns and Artillery:
-Make rail guns into sniper rifles. Give them High alpha, extreme optimal, but low tracking and falloff, low ROF and high cap use per shot for difficult sustained fire. Do much more kinetic damage than thermal.
-Blasters the opposite. Excellent tracking, ROF, cap usage for sustained fire and great dps, but low optimal, falloff and alpha damage. Do more thermal damage than kinetic.
- Then Artillery is the more moderate long range weapon with no cap use and high falloff etc.

Also ECM is fine. It has an important position in fleet compositions, and suffers a myriad of counters last of which is ECCM. Please stop whining about it.

looks of:
Imicus
Burst
Bantam

Without reading the other post in this thread i would change a few things. Trying not to go into to much detail( which is hard for me) :

1) I would shrink empire down to one or two regions per faction. I would expand null into current empire space. In the middle of null space at roughly intervals of 20-30 jumps from low sec would be faction( such as caladari, amarr, etc) faction outpost regions or constellations. These would consist of a few high sec systems and 2-3 times many low sec regions. surrounded by null space. My version of eve would be a spider web system. The center would be empire as described above. The intersections between two points on a web would be like outpost systems. and the threads to those would be low sec and all the empty space would be null.

Then outpost systems would have a special sec status called Osec. this would be .3 lower than an equivalent empire sec in terms of PVE interaction but still have the high sec security. Example: .7 Osec would have the same security in relation to players that high sec 1.0 has but have the pve content of a .7 system. This would be an incentive to get people out of the center of the web, even if they dont want to dip their feet into null.

Furthermore i would make a simple t3 industrial that has a few options on a single subsystem slot including high capacity and jump drive( like black ops). I would make a super freighter( super cap) with high capacity and long jump range( about 15-18 LY max). Both of these could use "Concord Jump Beacons" in certain high sec systems only to allow a decent flow of trade across the spread out empire.

This would later be followed by the ability of players on the outskirts of known space to explore new wormholes with new rats and basically add these systems( if they wish) to empire by setting up warp gates and settling the system( local would be tied to having a warp gate. Players would literally be able to expand the known eve universe through their actions. Make the sandbox bigger rather than playing in the current size one.

Overall i would expect this to spread people out more across eve and create some very interesting opportunities across all professions and give players a ton more of options on how to affect their sandbox.

2) I would redo alliances and the whole alliance system. Not really sure yet on how i would change this as i havent thought much about it. But big alliances would be a thing of the past, huge blue lists would be a thing of the past, coalitions would be a thing of the past.

One thing i thought of in this regard is to limit alliance size to around 2000-3000 members or maybe 100-1000 unique members( alts do not count but their would be strict and dire consequences for trying to work around this limitation including the deletion of characters or forcing them to stay in a NPC corp for a year or something. no limit on number of corps in an alliance. Allowing blue lists but they cost an increasing amount of money for number of people that are blued. IE: some small alliances in an area blue each other and you have about 1000 blues, its a manageable amount of isk to maintain the list. If you want to blue 1/2 of eve your going to pay hundreds of billions per week to maintain that list. The same with red and orange standings.

My goal would to get people to be more diverse and have to make choices about how much space to take and how to defend it. rather than " i got 6 alliances that are blue so we are good for 40 jumps in any direction. And it would make alliances depend on themselves to be more self sufficient and help discourage renting. ( honestly i would probably just make renting illegal. It encourages people to take space they dont need or use and discourages others from trying to take space. and thats a catalyst for the current situation in eve null)

3) Lastly , and CCP is already working on this, i would make it harder to blob and take space with blobs. I would create an environment in which little alliances from 100 to 1000 members could thrive. But alliances could still take a decent amount of space( no hard limit) but it becomes decreasingly hard to defend a larger empire.

My overall goal in eve would be to spread people out more and make it less appealing for alliances to just doze over a bunch of other alliances and rent the space out but still maintain the concept of " if you want space you have to defend it." Right now we have " if you want space you have to rent it, or have a 300-400 man blob with a large bank account"

You would have the option to take new space or to take someone elses space. But your going to work for your space either way and your going to have to work to keep it.