Warfare & Tactics

Then I would suppose giving EAFs and Recons role bonuses that keep them as or near effective in EWARs against bigger targets as current standard. Might see them more often like that.

Who says Machs are the only good BS? What a load of BS.

Haven't been on for a while, just saw this, so here is reply:

First of all, size doesn't equal power? Actually, in the world of ships it really does, look at the Bismarch, the Yamoto, any Russian Dread or Battleship, German designs, hell, any country worth it's salt, all the big ships are the most powerful, the most armoured, the most electronically supperior, by a long shot, for example, the Bismarch took on a small fleet before it was sunk, and it sunk an Admiral-class Battlecruiser (Which, despite history saying the Bismark was the biggest, the Hood was in fact larger, so yeah, there is that), and damaged a Battleship pretty bad, while being shot at by Destroyers, and managed to escape, while loosing fuel due to damage and being fairly citically damaged I might add, cause, *Drum roll* bigger ship means bigger engines, it could go faster! What a surprise that bigger means better, in almost every way.

And that gang is better then my ship cause for some stupid reason a Vexor Navy can out DPS a lot of Battleships, proving it needs a nerf or BS's need a Buff, 1 Logi ship should not be able to hold in the face of a Battleship, 2-3 yeah sure, but one? Hell no, proving the Cruiser Logi's Hull needs a Nerf or the bigger ships need a Buff to DPS, 2 Svipuls, which even their pilots call cancer, cause they are OP as hell, which out perform most Cruisers, hence proving they need a Nerf or bigger ships/equal ships need buffs to combat them, a Azuru, no problem with that holding me forever, that is what it is meant to do, it is a good ship, not cancerous at all, same with a Huginn, great ships, nothing wrong with them, get them in DPS range they crack without Logi support.

Battleships are under-powered to what they should be at, to what they should be capable of, that, or, more reasonably, nearly everything else is to powerful for what it should be, T3D's should not be able to replace Cruisers, have the Sig's of Frigates, and the Speed of Frigates, and in some cases, Interceptors, Cruiser are decent where they are, though T3 Cruisers and T2's still should not be able to achieve Battleship/Maurder level EHP, that is bull, no matter what way you spin it, Ceptors are in a good place, AF's need some desprate Buffs to give it a reason to exist, though, I am happy T3D's finally got banned from Small PLEX's like they always should have been, that in itself is a small buff to the AF's, now they are DPS lords of Smalls, EAF's are all really good when flown well, as are Bombers, the new T2 Dessies are good, not to much EHP/DPS, but good Utility, but the fact that some Cruisers (Faction, T2, T3) can match the EHP of Battleships, that is bull, hence why Battleships need more, they take so long to get to a fight, so people should be trying to break the enemy before they can bring Battleships, because once they arrive the other side has to upship to Battleships/Battlecruisers or be destroyed.

Also, if you honestly think price means anything when you look at how good things are.. Then your an idiot.. And I know your not so don't speak like a credit card warrior, a ship can be worth a billion and up and can still be Solo'd by a T2 Cruiser, I have seen a Local with a Golem get taken out by a Vaga, price means sweet **** all, price means it has a specitalty, for example, in RL, a military rifle, lets say any piece of crap Assault rifle, hmm.. M4A1, let's go with that, I hated that when we had to train with them, is expensive (In regards to it's class), and is regarded as a great all round rifle (This is BS), now, an A-47 is worth 10x less, and is 50x better, jams less, has a bigger caliber, better range, better durability, better adaptability, isn't plastic, can be used in melee, you know who wins in that fight with 2 people with equal skill? The bloody AK, why? It is bigger, and better, sure there is luck, but that is an unknown quantity and can't ever be caculated or counted on.

Sufice to say, a Battleships is a god damn Battleship, THEY ARE MEANT FOR BATTLE! Cruisers were made to support BATTLESHIPS IN BATTLES, cause they do not have the damage or raw power to hold the line, and BATTLECRUISERS were made as a counter to BATTLESHIPS! Hence the same Gun sizes but better speed and smaller signature. Battleship is big, Battleship is for power, because it is big, Battleship have big Guns, because it is big, and armor to match, because it is big, so where, do you know anywhere other then Nuclear bombs and things that use massive cheical and sub-nuclear reactions, does a small thing have more power the the bigger version? No where, cause bigger does mean more power, in almost every way.

Also, as to the comment about Electronically Superior, yes, a Battleship has more Sensor Srength then most ships, and that should actually, you know, protect it from things that interfer with, you know, Sensors, so again, size, equals power, even seen how big they have to make reactors to power the Aircraft Carriers? They are huge, ever see the Guns that fire the most powerful rounds in the world? They are massive, size, almost always equals power. Sorry to say it, but in this regard (To size equaling power), you are wrong.

The ships that fire torpedo's still tend to be 70m and up in length, Torpedo's are just as powerful as a broadside cannon, only difference is they hit in places where it opens the door for flooding, in fact, their are torpedo's that aren't even built to blow up ships, they are built to sink them with little to no show of damage, so A, the enemy crew notice to late, and B, doesn't leave 20km's worth of smoke and wreakage to give intel away, and give away positions, haha! Sneaky bastards, but once again, torpedo's need to be fired, from ships (Some planes and other amphibious craft as well), which are very large (In relation to RL ships). But same math for when a squad of infantry find out there is a guy 1km ahead of them at he top of the valley, with a 50. Cal, and same for armored colums when they get intel the enemy has mines, RPG's, hell, anything that goes sploody really..

Read what I said.. Here I will copy and paste it - " Sneaky bastards, but once again, torpedo's need to be fired, from ships (Some planes and other amphibious craft as well), which are very large"

Yes, tech like that is already being built by other countries, havent seen these docs though, got any links? Love reading about other miltiaries, and I might add, that tech is a long way off, not the long range Torpedoes, but a reactor to power that in a size enough to fit ito a speciallised Torpedo, not to mention cost.. Cause once you test that monster, other countries will have defences, plus.. If you know where it is being fired from, just build walls of stone under the water, or have movable walls (Cranes), and move them around when a torpedo like that is detected. Trust me, every country would have who ever made these things watched like a hawk, and if they fired one, another country would know within minutes, and most of the world a little after that. Still a scary prospect.

Submarines are watercraft, dumb it down.. A lot.. And it's a form of ship, but there are actually Ampibious Submarine Assault Craft, US and Russia have a few, pretty cool things, if somewhat ugly.. And I imagine this torpedo will be launched form a large dock, similar to a un-manned Submarine I would guess. and oh.. Yeah.. That doesn't sound legit.. Shame.. I might have to do some reading around, see if I can find something, haha!

No, ships are not amphibious either, though, there are ships that are, ships raw definition is something that transports goods or people via sea, no on the sea, or under the sea, via the sea, so, by that, all vessels that travel below, or on the sea, touching the water in some way, are ships, boats however, pacifically say they are a small craft that travels on the water, one of my old captains had to gives us extra duties when a stupid admiral got upset that we called his "ship" a boat, and yeah, we had to sit through hours of him and his men ranting on about the differences, but that is what you get when land is naught but a fond memory, haha!

There were actually plans and still are I beleive to make submersible docks for Submarines, that could move, esstentially making it a big Submarine by definition.

You do not seem to understand that medium blasters and large blasters have hugely different signature sizes. You cannot directly compare their tracking stats without taking these into account.

A mega is not a good solo battle ship in the current meta. If you had a better understanding of the current meta you would would realise this and fly something different. Not all good ships are good solo and not all ships need to be good solo. That 6 man gang had a solid ship diversity (Damps/Huugin webs/Logi/DPS) and in no way should you in a solo 250m BS be able to take out 6 people fielding over 800m isk worth of ships and flying them well (not saying they did).

This is coming from someone who does solo BS and comes out isk positive from the majority of fights i engage in. You have to pick your targets/fits wisely because you are at heart a slow lumbering hulk of metal in a world filled with fast, high dps low signature ships.

AB on a BS? Once you get a single web land you are not dictating range vs anything. Neuting a frigates AB off and transversal matching with him webbed is more than fine for ensuring hits without an AB. I cannot fathom a use for an AB on battleship outside of a nightmare. I would be interested in seeing the fit.

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