EVE General Discussion

Distributing his unwanted possessions to others prior to cutting the cord is also a powerful medium.

While i am not sure i like this new skill point system stuff the character bazar was already a pay to win scenario so who cares? the time and patience to learn is still there and i welcome everyone that "skills" with their wallet to my little place

I should hope so. Many newbies sound like the graduates I interview that expect to be appointed CEO immediately.

I strongly doubt that the major factor in combat, industry, exploration, mining or any field in Eve is the number of SP you have. SP provides access to things, and the fact that it's currently largely linear and...takes time...forces thinking and choices. That time, thinking and choices leads to experience and actual skill in playing the game.

Simply tossing the keys of the armoury to the rich kids will not bridge the gap at all. A guy who has been playing for 1 day, even if he's spent $$$ to get 200m SPs will definitely find their faction-fit Maurader up on somebody's trophy wall. All the SP transfer system is going to do is increase the number of hilarious bling kills.

You could argue that this already can happen with the character bizarre, but I think the "off-grid" nature of it (even if it is regulated) is probably a deterrent and very few new players avail themselves of it. The SP transfer thing will make it completely normal, and gradually people will feel necessary for new players. Is that really healthy for the long term future of Eve?

You know how it is. Once the genie is out of the bottle, it becomes a thing that more and more newbies/people do. Pretty soon, in order to not be killed on the undock by other newbies, you'll need it too. Arms race!

Okay, okay, maybe the example I gave of being "shot on the undock" was more a metaphor than a truth. I'll not answer your other questions regarding the game mechanics, as I'm sure you already know.

Hmz

Same here, at first I was: No f***ing way, stupid action.


Then reading the dev blog I kind of went, meh let us see what they do first.


As it stands, not a major impact imo

Consider the following

- The skill point difference between a newbie in a T1 frigate and a Tech 3 Destroyer then a Marauder, T3 cruiser and such.
- Consider that skill point difference as time.
- Now with the up coming changes, think of it as cost.

EVE becomes very expensive to be competitive.

I think the SP transfers will be off putting, people don't want to feel so squeezed to catch up to veterans with their multiple alts that are ahead of them.
Beyond that; there will be less characters for newbies that want to take the short cut. The bidding wars will probably start using in game wealth to suck characters dry and stuff them into toons.

I full agree that SP transfers will be bad for the game.

For one thing, because most newbies probably don't know the CB exists, much less which character they should buy there. But more importantly - the new system lets them gradually buy a new character. Only few people would get into a game, and then drop 500 Bucks into it to buy a 30M Character right away. However, now they can buy their Character in 20-Dollar-Pieces. Need Cruiser V? 20 Bucks. Medium Projectile Turrets V? 20 Bucks. That's much less of a barrier right there.

Newbies already feel the need to drop 20 Bucks into the game early on to buy shiny ships they will inevitably lose way too often. If they get the possibility to buy Skill points slammed in their faces from day one, while getting the **** kicked out of them by all those dudes in way too expensive ships who obviously have more SP than them - of course they will feel that they need to buy those SP to be competitive. It doesn't matter so much if this system makes Eve more or less P2W than it already is, but it sure will look like every other crappy P2W MMOG, only that you have to pay a monthly fee on top.

This.

Skills don't make you win, experience does.

I don't really see any way it could be "gold ammo". "Gold ammo" tends to be a a cash-shop exclusive item that is fundamentally better than the normal gameplay alternative.

This doesn't give "better" skillpoints. Quite the opposite, really, since it is a lossy procedure, and all of the skillpoints still have to be acquired in the usual way.

My inner bittervet wants to be offended on principle, but I just can't find anything to grr about.

And I'm sure there will be at least a handful of ragey noob posts by people who bought a ton of SP and promptly got rocked by some newb in a velator, so that will be fun too.