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Tengu: HAMS the only viable option?

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Nero Solo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-01-17 23:29:06 UTC
Hi good ppl,

Looking to fit a tengu for low sec (only) exploration. Meaning, data/relic/ghosts/DED’s 5/10 and 6/10, anomalies and standard sleeper caches.

Now i know that there have to be 2 different fits, and need to be changed on the go using a mobile depot, and I'm ok with that, I already have the roaming/scanning fit, what I'm missing is the combat fit... I know what you're thinking, there's plenty of tengu fits out there, and indeed there are, unfortunately (for me) they all revolt around HAMS, and i know they're dps king but my character doesn't have any HAM skills, only HML. Near perfect HML skills/support/targeting skills. So i want to make it work using HML.

My main concern is a proven HML fit that's able to dish out enough dps to take the overseer in the 6/10 last room and to tank both sites (5/10 and 6/10) this btw is for BR space which in theory should work since u wanna stay at range and away from those neuts/webs/scrams.

I'd like to stick to T2 launchers and BCS’s (if possible) rest can be shiny and faction ammo is ok.

I know there's better ships for the job and cheaper and more efficient and what not, but I'm a focused caldari pilot with almost all lv 5 tengu skills.

Again, I don’t know if can be done so I'm turning to the pros for some help.

Thanks in advance.
Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
#2 - 2016-01-17 23:55:50 UTC
..and what's the reason for not training HAM's?

You admit yourself they are better for what you're trying to do

Oderint Dum Metuant

Nero Solo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2016-01-18 00:26:05 UTC
Is there any other reason other than time when it comes to EVE? Thanks anyway.
Jace Varus
Lemur Appreciation Society
#4 - 2016-01-18 00:47:12 UTC
I run DED sites in nullsec. Just go heavy missiles. If you find sites where there are stasis towers, the range really helps, and the HAM's range is just borderline horrible, unless your brawling. I know some people who use them, butt I've never tried them.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#5 - 2016-01-18 01:18:42 UTC
Before deciding I vastly prefer a Legion I used this for quite some time:

[Tengu, exploration killer current]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II
Missile Guidance Enhancer II

Pithi C-Type Small Shield Booster
Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Improved Cloaking Device II

Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II

Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

Except that I had another T2 BCU in place of that MGE (which of course didn't exist at the time). It can do 6/10s without a problem; for the 5/10 swap in a suitcase in the low. For the last room in a powergrid escalation just focus on getting as far away from the cruisers as you can before you cap out. In any case, be prepared to overheat the tank where needed.

But yeah. it does work.
Nero Solo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-01-18 02:11:47 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Before deciding I vastly prefer a Legion I used this for quite some time:

[Tengu, exploration killer current]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II
Missile Guidance Enhancer II

Pithi C-Type Small Shield Booster
Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Improved Cloaking Device II

Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II

Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

Except that I had another T2 BCU in place of that MGE (which of course didn't exist at the time). It can do 6/10s without a problem; for the 5/10 swap in a suitcase in the low. For the last room in a powergrid escalation just focus on getting as far away from the cruisers as you can before you cap out. In any case, be prepared to overheat the tank where needed.

But yeah. it does work.


Thanks man, you're always very helpful.
Orlacc
#7 - 2016-01-18 03:27:20 UTC
I prefer HMLs on a Tengu myself.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."

Eli Apol
Definitely a nullsec alt
#8 - 2016-01-18 03:53:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Eli Apol
[Tengu, sansha]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II

Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster
Pith X-Type EM Ward Field
Pith X-Type EM Ward Field
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

Was what I used for Sansha 5/10s (overheat booster, launchers and EM fields in the last room and headshot the commander)

Would probably work with HMLs as well, but you're gonna be getting to dicey levels of shield because you'll need to reload.

but what would I know, I'm just a salvager