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Decline in numbers... starting to turn into RAPID!!!

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Avvy
Doomheim
#3881 - 2016-01-17 10:30:16 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
Mir Jana wrote:
I was wondering about something...

January 2014 - average was 41k online
June 2014 - average was 32k online
December 2014 - average was 27k online
May 2015 - average was 21k online
August 2015 - average is 16k online

today I logged in at 14793 online.....



Today I logged in at 23062 online, at 10:15 EVE time. 23k online for the past month.

EVE IS DYING!



I haven't logged on since before Xmas, but I'm still a customer and my character is still training. All thanks to the extended training queue we have these days.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#3882 - 2016-01-17 11:01:06 UTC
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#3883 - 2016-01-17 11:04:09 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
Thats it folks, they have shut down the servers!

What do we do now? Cry

Wait 15 min and hope that the hamsters are charged back up again.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#3884 - 2016-01-17 11:17:51 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
Thats it folks, they have shut down the servers!

What do we do now? Cry

Wait 15 min and hope that the hamsters are charged back up again.


Or read an article on how do 1.4 million people spend their hard earned money.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#3885 - 2016-01-17 11:28:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Meh, Elite is boring. Not like SC, just wait and watch, if Roberts doesnt start to shout "weee I am a star citizen" and try to levitate off of the roof of the office building, That will be worth watching. Cool

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3886 - 2016-01-17 12:49:57 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
Thats it folks, they have shut down the servers!

What do we do now? Cry

Wait 15 min and hope that the hamsters are charged back up again.


Or read an article on how do 1.4 million people spend their hard earned money.


Again, 1.4 million copies sold =/= 1.4 million copies being played. I play the game, and I frequent the forums. There are definitely not that many people playing.

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sero Hita
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#3887 - 2016-01-17 15:13:30 UTC  |  Edited by: sero Hita
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
Thats it folks, they have shut down the servers!

What do we do now? Cry

Wait 15 min and hope that the hamsters are charged back up again.


Or read an article on how do 1.4 million people spend their hard earned money.


If you counted every person who has paid at least once for a subscription in EVE at some point, you would most likely get impressive numbers. And like alot of people said, it does not mean that 1.4 mill people are playing it. It is not hard to understand!!! You are also assuming they are the same target group of people, which is also inaccurate, as ED is more for the solo player. So what is your point actually? Telling CCP how much in trouble they are or what? I am getting tired of your troll like posting. you don't backup your statements, you misinterpret the data provided (Like that 62% are PVE'ers, when CCP quant clearly stated it was just based on few timepoints and not representative), you twist every statistic untill it fits your narative. Recently you have stopped with the long posts, and just post these " LOL, look how cool this other game is Cool", "LOL, people leave EVECool", "LOL, look how pcu increased only due to the latest PVE event Cool" . Wanting to punish CCP and showing schadenfreude, because they do not agre with you, is pretty childish and immature.

"I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec. Got T-shirts from every which-where.. But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp." RealFlisker
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#3888 - 2016-01-17 16:41:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Jenn aSide wrote:
I've wondered since almost my 1st day of playing EVE, "if you don't like it, WHY are you still here, and if these other games are such big EVE killers, WHY are you here playing EVE instead of that other game". It just does not compute with me, especially how some of them PUBLICLY RAGE QUIT, then slink their asses right back here a few days/months/weeks later

. I think of these people talking about how Elite is better or how SC will have this and No Man's sky will have that, but they probably aren't playing Elite/those other games as much as EVE, aren't posting on Elite's or others forums near as much as here and so on. The list of games they said would kill EVE recently got bigger with Elite, yet here we still are. It's a foreign concept to me to stop playing a game I actually like to go hang out in a game I like less that has a community I dislike more.


I think you have an head case as well, because you seem to look at reality with a black and white mindset and this is reductive at best, for an human being.

When I purchased my car, I really loved it. I just did not like a very cheap plastic looking panel, but hey, it's not like I can get car #203,500 changed just for me. I can provide feedback so other customers will benefit from it, but I am not going to get the panel changed.

A MMO is another product I could really love, except for a very cheap plastic looking feature. I can provide feedback so other customers may benefit from it AND I could actually get to benefit from that change myself.

So, here you go, a simple reason why loving something does not necessarily mean to leave it frozen and locked forever. Or why, one could love 97% of a software and ask for a 3% to be changed. All it takes, is a practical and less black and white universe approach.

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Indahmawar Fazmarai
#3889 - 2016-01-17 17:24:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Indahmawar Fazmarai
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
Thats it folks, they have shut down the servers!

What do we do now? Cry

Wait 15 min and hope that the hamsters are charged back up again.


Or read an article on how do 1.4 million people spend their hard earned money.


Again, 1.4 million copies sold =/= 1.4 million copies being played. I play the game, and I frequent the forums. There are definitely not that many people playing.


I didn't said that. Last time we heard of it, EVE had had +9 million unique users, and that was around EVE 10 Years. IMO, selling 1.4 million copies of a non-mainstream multiplayer game in a year is a resounding success. Specially when that has been achieved without doing anything that EVE does.

Begs to wonder how many of those buyers bought something that EVE could have provided, maybe even stuff that was in the plans.

All in all, EVE was originally incepted as "Elite with friends", until computer video FX artists took over its development and impressive visuals got a permanent lead over making the game actually enjoyable.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#3890 - 2016-01-17 17:38:23 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
I've wondered since almost my 1st day of playing EVE, "if you don't like it, WHY are you still here, and if these other games are such big EVE killers, WHY are you here playing EVE instead of that other game". It just does not compute with me, especially how some of them PUBLICLY RAGE QUIT, then slink their asses right back here a few days/months/weeks later

. I think of these people talking about how Elite is better or how SC will have this and No Man's sky will have that, but they probably aren't playing Elite/those other games as much as EVE, aren't posting on Elite's or others forums near as much as here and so on. The list of games they said would kill EVE recently got bigger with Elite, yet here we still are. It's a foreign concept to me to stop playing a game I actually like to go hang out in a game I like less that has a community I dislike more.


I think you have an head case as well, because you seem to look at reality with a black and white mindset and this is reductive at best, for an human being.

When I purchased my car, I really loved it. I just did not like a very cheap plastic looking panel, but hey, it's not like I can get car #203,500 changed just for me. I can provide feedback so other customers will benefit from it, but I am not going to get the panel changed.

A MMO is another product I could really love, except for a very cheap plastic looking feature. I can provide feedback so other customers may benefit from it AND I could actually get to benefit from that change myself.

So, here you go, a simple reason why loving something does not necessarily mean to leave it frozen and locked forever. Or why, one could love 97% of a software and ask for a 3% to be changed. All it takes, is a practical and less black and white universe approach.


i think it's yourself who is being over-simplistic here. Allow me to clarify what I'm pretty sure is Jenn's meaning.

She's not talking about minor cosmetic features like your car's dashboard. She's talking about you buying a car and trying to use it for hangliding. Sure, with enough money, persistence and effort, you can incrementally turn a truck into a not very good microlight aircraft, but the process will involve you faceplanting into the ground at speed a number of times, and will cost you vastly more time, effort and disappointment than just admtting to yourself that you should go to the damb microlight store and buy the article you actually want, rather than trying to convince the car manufacturer to alienate all their customers who want to buy a truck by gradually making it lighter, removing all the body work and putting little wings on the side.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3891 - 2016-01-17 17:39:36 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
I've wondered since almost my 1st day of playing EVE, "if you don't like it, WHY are you still here, and if these other games are such big EVE killers, WHY are you here playing EVE instead of that other game". It just does not compute with me, especially how some of them PUBLICLY RAGE QUIT, then slink their asses right back here a few days/months/weeks later

. I think of these people talking about how Elite is better or how SC will have this and No Man's sky will have that, but they probably aren't playing Elite/those other games as much as EVE, aren't posting on Elite's or others forums near as much as here and so on. The list of games they said would kill EVE recently got bigger with Elite, yet here we still are. It's a foreign concept to me to stop playing a game I actually like to go hang out in a game I like less that has a community I dislike more.


I think you have an head case as well, because you seem to look at reality with a black and white mindset and this is reductive at best, for an human being.

When I purchased my car, I really loved it. I just did not like a very cheap plastic looking panel, but hey, it's not like I can get car #203,500 changed just for me. I can provide feedback so other customers will benefit from it, but I am not going to get the panel changed.

A MMO is another product I could really love, except for a very cheap plastic looking feature. I can provide feedback so other customers may benefit from it AND I could actually get to benefit from that change myself.

So, here you go, a simple reason why loving something does not necessarily mean to leave it frozen and locked forever. Or why, one could love 97% of a software and ask for a 3% to be changed. All it takes, is a practical and less black and white universe approach.


i think it's yourself who is being over-simplistic here. Allow me to clarify what I'm pretty sure is Jenn's meaning.

She's not talking about minor cosmetic features like your car's dashboard. She's talking about you buying a car and trying to use it for hangliding. Sure, with enough money, persistence and effort, you can incrementally turn a truck into a not very good microlight aircraft, but the process will involve you faceplanting into the ground at speed a number of times, and will cost you vastly more time, effort and disappointment than just admtting to yourself that you should go to the damb microlight store and buy the article you actually want, rather than trying to convince the car manufacturer to alienate all their customers who want to buy a truck by gradually making it lighter, removing all the body work and putting little wings on the side.


/thread

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Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#3892 - 2016-01-17 18:04:27 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Sure, with enough money, persistence and effort, you can incrementally turn a truck into a not very good microlight aircraft.

Or Reliant Robin into spaceship.

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Digits Kho
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#3893 - 2016-01-17 18:48:07 UTC
Ladies and gents,
Eve is dead, thus you can go ahead and send me ur stuff. You wont be needing it anyways
King Aires
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3894 - 2016-01-17 19:09:05 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
I've wondered since almost my 1st day of playing EVE, "if you don't like it, WHY are you still here, and if these other games are such big EVE killers, WHY are you here playing EVE instead of that other game". It just does not compute with me, especially how some of them PUBLICLY RAGE QUIT, then slink their asses right back here a few days/months/weeks later

. I think of these people talking about how Elite is better or how SC will have this and No Man's sky will have that, but they probably aren't playing Elite/those other games as much as EVE, aren't posting on Elite's or others forums near as much as here and so on. The list of games they said would kill EVE recently got bigger with Elite, yet here we still are. It's a foreign concept to me to stop playing a game I actually like to go hang out in a game I like less that has a community I dislike more.


I think you have an head case as well, because you seem to look at reality with a black and white mindset and this is reductive at best, for an human being.

When I purchased my car, I really loved it. I just did not like a very cheap plastic looking panel, but hey, it's not like I can get car #203,500 changed just for me. I can provide feedback so other customers will benefit from it, but I am not going to get the panel changed.

A MMO is another product I could really love, except for a very cheap plastic looking feature. I can provide feedback so other customers may benefit from it AND I could actually get to benefit from that change myself.

So, here you go, a simple reason why loving something does not necessarily mean to leave it frozen and locked forever. Or why, one could love 97% of a software and ask for a 3% to be changed. All it takes, is a practical and less black and white universe approach.


i think it's yourself who is being over-simplistic here. Allow me to clarify what I'm pretty sure is Jenn's meaning.

She's not talking about minor cosmetic features like your car's dashboard. She's talking about you buying a car and trying to use it for hangliding. Sure, with enough money, persistence and effort, you can incrementally turn a truck into a not very good microlight aircraft, but the process will involve you faceplanting into the ground at speed a number of times, and will cost you vastly more time, effort and disappointment than just admtting to yourself that you should go to the damb microlight store and buy the article you actually want, rather than trying to convince the car manufacturer to alienate all their customers who want to buy a truck by gradually making it lighter, removing all the body work and putting little wings on the side.


Problem is Jenn has expressed that people who would rather not PVP in this game should leave and find another.

Which is no less ridiculous a statement than "people who would rather not PVE in this game should leave and find another"

This game has PVP, this game has PVE. There is both here, each feeds and drives the other, a ying/yang kinda thing.

So Jenn to insinuate those here for the PVE don't like the game is no different than some crazy guy saying if you don't PVE you should leave too.

Jenn, and others like him should concern themselves less about what people like and don't and concern themselves more with playing the game and letting others do the same.
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3895 - 2016-01-17 19:12:11 UTC
King Aires wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
I've wondered since almost my 1st day of playing EVE, "if you don't like it, WHY are you still here, and if these other games are such big EVE killers, WHY are you here playing EVE instead of that other game". It just does not compute with me, especially how some of them PUBLICLY RAGE QUIT, then slink their asses right back here a few days/months/weeks later

. I think of these people talking about how Elite is better or how SC will have this and No Man's sky will have that, but they probably aren't playing Elite/those other games as much as EVE, aren't posting on Elite's or others forums near as much as here and so on. The list of games they said would kill EVE recently got bigger with Elite, yet here we still are. It's a foreign concept to me to stop playing a game I actually like to go hang out in a game I like less that has a community I dislike more.


I think you have an head case as well, because you seem to look at reality with a black and white mindset and this is reductive at best, for an human being.

When I purchased my car, I really loved it. I just did not like a very cheap plastic looking panel, but hey, it's not like I can get car #203,500 changed just for me. I can provide feedback so other customers will benefit from it, but I am not going to get the panel changed.

A MMO is another product I could really love, except for a very cheap plastic looking feature. I can provide feedback so other customers may benefit from it AND I could actually get to benefit from that change myself.

So, here you go, a simple reason why loving something does not necessarily mean to leave it frozen and locked forever. Or why, one could love 97% of a software and ask for a 3% to be changed. All it takes, is a practical and less black and white universe approach.


i think it's yourself who is being over-simplistic here. Allow me to clarify what I'm pretty sure is Jenn's meaning.

She's not talking about minor cosmetic features like your car's dashboard. She's talking about you buying a car and trying to use it for hangliding. Sure, with enough money, persistence and effort, you can incrementally turn a truck into a not very good microlight aircraft, but the process will involve you faceplanting into the ground at speed a number of times, and will cost you vastly more time, effort and disappointment than just admtting to yourself that you should go to the damb microlight store and buy the article you actually want, rather than trying to convince the car manufacturer to alienate all their customers who want to buy a truck by gradually making it lighter, removing all the body work and putting little wings on the side.


Problem is Jenn has expressed that people who would rather not PVP in this game should leave and find another.

Which is no less ridiculous a statement than "people who would rather not PVE in this game should leave and find another"

This game has PVP, this game has PVE. There is both here, each feeds and drives the other, a ying/yang kinda thing.

So Jenn to insinuate those here for the PVE don't like the game is no different than some crazy guy saying if you don't PVE you should leave too.

Jenn, and others like him should concern themselves less about what people like and don't and concern themselves more with playing the game and letting others do the same.


Thats not really what he is saying though is it

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#3896 - 2016-01-17 19:39:52 UTC
King Aires wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
I've wondered since almost my 1st day of playing EVE, "if you don't like it, WHY are you still here, and if these other games are such big EVE killers, WHY are you here playing EVE instead of that other game". It just does not compute with me, especially how some of them PUBLICLY RAGE QUIT, then slink their asses right back here a few days/months/weeks later

. I think of these people talking about how Elite is better or how SC will have this and No Man's sky will have that, but they probably aren't playing Elite/those other games as much as EVE, aren't posting on Elite's or others forums near as much as here and so on. The list of games they said would kill EVE recently got bigger with Elite, yet here we still are. It's a foreign concept to me to stop playing a game I actually like to go hang out in a game I like less that has a community I dislike more.


I think you have an head case as well, because you seem to look at reality with a black and white mindset and this is reductive at best, for an human being.

When I purchased my car, I really loved it. I just did not like a very cheap plastic looking panel, but hey, it's not like I can get car #203,500 changed just for me. I can provide feedback so other customers will benefit from it, but I am not going to get the panel changed.

A MMO is another product I could really love, except for a very cheap plastic looking feature. I can provide feedback so other customers may benefit from it AND I could actually get to benefit from that change myself.

So, here you go, a simple reason why loving something does not necessarily mean to leave it frozen and locked forever. Or why, one could love 97% of a software and ask for a 3% to be changed. All it takes, is a practical and less black and white universe approach.


i think it's yourself who is being over-simplistic here. Allow me to clarify what I'm pretty sure is Jenn's meaning.

She's not talking about minor cosmetic features like your car's dashboard. She's talking about you buying a car and trying to use it for hangliding. Sure, with enough money, persistence and effort, you can incrementally turn a truck into a not very good microlight aircraft, but the process will involve you faceplanting into the ground at speed a number of times, and will cost you vastly more time, effort and disappointment than just admtting to yourself that you should go to the damb microlight store and buy the article you actually want, rather than trying to convince the car manufacturer to alienate all their customers who want to buy a truck by gradually making it lighter, removing all the body work and putting little wings on the side.


Problem is Jenn has expressed that people who would rather not PVP in this game should leave and find another.

Which is no less ridiculous a statement than "people who would rather not PVE in this game should leave and find another"

This game has PVP, this game has PVE. There is both here, each feeds and drives the other, a ying/yang kinda thing.

So Jenn to insinuate those here for the PVE don't like the game is no different than some crazy guy saying if you don't PVE you should leave too.

Jenn, and others like him should concern themselves less about what people like and don't and concern themselves more with playing the game and letting others do the same.



By all means don't chose to "PVP" (I assume you mean direct combat) in EVE if you don't wish to. Just don't try and pretend that PVP can't come to you. That's about as realistic as buying an F150 and then complaining to Ford that other people are driving on the roads.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3897 - 2016-01-17 19:57:38 UTC
Avvy wrote:
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Captain Tardbar wrote:

Voice chat is what keeps these games alive.

Text chat is for anti-social people who want to limit their interaction.

The only reason I am playing EVE again this month is that my org leader wanted to play it while waiting on Star Citizen to release more features.

We use teamspeak mostly.

The problem with EVE no is that it lacks voice communication across a broad spectrum.

You do know that EVE has voice chat in pretty much every chat channel right, and in fleet, with a few settings that allow you to always hear the FC if you want.
People just like to use Teamspeak anyway because if you DC from EVE you can still speak up on Teamspeak that you DC'ed, while if you use EVE Voice, you can't.
Some of the pub communities used to always use EVE Voice for fleet comms, don't know what they currently do.


EVE has voice chat, but no one seems to use it.


Because it's not as good apparently.

Iirc one of the things was you couldn't chat if you got dc'd.


Edit:

Which was confirmed in the post above yours, which I hadn't read until now.


Which could be resolved if CCP created and external voice app that did not crash when the client crashed and could be tied into any channels in game (local included).

I know Jita local would be a horrible voice channel, but I'd find it interesting to here real life people scamming in voice rather than text.

Looking to talk on VOIP with other EVE players? Are you new and need help with EVE (welfare) or looking for advice? Looking for adversarial debate with angry people?

Captain Tardbar's Voice Discord Server
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3898 - 2016-01-17 20:00:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Avvy wrote:
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Captain Tardbar wrote:

Voice chat is what keeps these games alive.

Text chat is for anti-social people who want to limit their interaction.

The only reason I am playing EVE again this month is that my org leader wanted to play it while waiting on Star Citizen to release more features.

We use teamspeak mostly.

The problem with EVE no is that it lacks voice communication across a broad spectrum.

You do know that EVE has voice chat in pretty much every chat channel right, and in fleet, with a few settings that allow you to always hear the FC if you want.
People just like to use Teamspeak anyway because if you DC from EVE you can still speak up on Teamspeak that you DC'ed, while if you use EVE Voice, you can't.
Some of the pub communities used to always use EVE Voice for fleet comms, don't know what they currently do.


EVE has voice chat, but no one seems to use it.


Because it's not as good apparently.

Iirc one of the things was you couldn't chat if you got dc'd.


Edit:

Which was confirmed in the post above yours, which I hadn't read until now.


Which could be resolved if CCP created and external voice app that did not crash when the client crashed and could be tied into any channels in game (local included).

I know Jita local would be a horrible voice channel, but I'd find it interesting to here real life people scamming in voice rather than text.


but all dem spais!, nevermind being a knightmare for ccp to monitor it

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Samir Duran Xadi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3899 - 2016-01-17 20:22:06 UTC
Numbers already down since last Sunday I think its only downhill from now on, similar to last year.
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3900 - 2016-01-17 20:30:11 UTC
Samir Duran Xadi wrote:
Numbers already down since last Sunday I think its only downhill from now on, similar to last year.


i dont really feel it on my fun monitor tbh, i can log in and pretty much instantly be introduced to various types of fleets and if i fancy solo then i can burn through a few hundred mil a night in t2 frigates being terrible in faction warfare systems, i can still sit on a gate and be drip fed shuttles, pods and dst's by the minute.

eve is fun, eve is alive

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*