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i just see this...i couldn't belive it

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eug3nio Anninen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-01-14 13:34:30 UTC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np7hv-QAXXU


back to eve i saw how planets look like ,...i gotta say it dudes ...after hundreds of euros
in plexes , i feel like CCP is doing nothing but ridicolus changes to the game , that still looking cool
for the '90 .....

it's no trolling dudes ....
i give it a chance and i buy a ship in starcitizen ,,....
if u like space stuff there's no such thing .....

don't get me wrong ....eve is cool and it's different ....but one thing is clear
the sensation to be in space is absent , star citizen is like a dream come true


i thing after 2 years i will left the game if , as it seems , there is nothing new in eve world .....
first of all ....is a spacegame where planets are simple marble balls .....

and we still pay a lot for the same game ....15 euro for a game that was new 10 years ago ....

e**ug3n[u]i**o[/u]

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2016-01-14 13:44:27 UTC
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to SC vs EVE thread number.... ah... actually, I don't know, I lost count. Can anyone catch me up?

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Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-01-14 13:46:19 UTC
For less than some people have payed into scam citizen to play nothing you could get a rift and play VR EvE spaceships, just sayin.

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#4 - 2016-01-14 14:03:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
You know why it's unbelievable? It's because it doesn't really exist. It's not in-game; it's hardly even in-engine; it's cheated to hell and back; and it's not even that impressive since games have been doing that for years (and on a much larger scale). All they have is a neat rendering pipeline that they've fed some fairly simple shaders to make it look good. If they ever manage to squeeze a game out, it'll be just in time for that rendering pipeline to be old and obsolete too. In fact, if you look closely, you see the cracks in the thin coat of paint they've slapped on to try to cover up the cheating.

It's a PR stunt put together by a man who thinks he's inventing things that have been around for two decades, often citing ideas as “groundbreaking” when they were tried and tested ten years ago and immediately discarded for being thoroughly bad ideas and fundamentally flawed on a conceptual level — a man that has historically proven he knows next to nothing about game development who constantly refers to his game as a movie because that's what he really want's to do (but who unfortunately has also historically proven to be even worse at that than at game development).

eug3nio Anninen wrote:

i give it a chance and i buy a ship in starcitizen ,,....
if u like space stuff there's no such thing .....

Close. If you buy Star Citizen, there is no such thing. Largely because the game doesn't exist yet — it's a tech demo that somehow is also an alpha version while at the same time delivering “a substantial part of the gameplay” (or something to that effect, don't remember the exact quote) while also not having any actual gameplay or game dynamics finalised or scoped out. In other words, the developers themselves don't know what stage of the development process they're in. At most, they seem to finally have understood that in order to release anything at all that they can claim is a finished product, they have to start cutting key features and somehow convince the backers that the stuff they were promised will come… somehow, some time in the future, maybe.

You've been scammed.

I would say “ask for a refund”, but the last official word is that they can't give any any more because they've spent all the money, so you're just SOL. Try a chargeback with your bank if you can.
ISD Fractal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#5 - 2016-01-14 14:18:53 UTC
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Rovinia
Exotic Dancers Union
#6 - 2016-01-14 14:44:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Rovinia
I don't think Star Citizen is a scam. If the Single Player campaign "Squadron 42" is good, i will play it if my hardware can take it. Loved the old Wing Commander games from Mr. Roberts. Time for a new good Space Opera.

The PvP (instances, *yuk*) and the whole online Part on the other side doesn't really interrest me. Seems to be pretty limited and can't be compared to the Eve Universe.

Both games have their own strenghts and completly different gameplay. SC is more in competition with Elite: Dangerous than with Eve. I'm sure we will see an impact on Subscriptions when it get's released, but most of them will be back 2 months later.

I didn't back the game btw.
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#7 - 2016-01-14 14:49:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Gregor Parud
Rovinia wrote:
I don't think Star Citizen is a scam. If the Single Player campaign "Squadron 42" is good, i will play it if my hardware can take it. Loved the old Wing Commander games from Mr. Roberts. Time for a new good Space Opera.

The PvP (instances, *yuk*) and the whole online Part on the other side doesn't really interrest me. Seems to be pretty limited and can't be compared to the Eve Universe.

Both games have their own strenghts and completly different gameplay. SC is more in competition with Elite: Dangerous than with Eve. I'm sure we will see an impact on Subscriptions when it get's released, but most of them will be back 2 months later.


And as with all PVE. People will rush past it cutting corners where they can and complete it in 1-3 weeks and then whine about how limited it is and that they need more content.

And yes, per Tipia's explanation: Chris Roberts sells dreams and unicorns knowing he can never deliver on those dreams because he doesn't limit them by showing or mentioning actual game play mechanics. "The game will have awesome exploration" which means different things to different people and by not pinpointing how it works people will just create their own hyped idea of what it should be, which it never will be. He knows that and counts on that.

It's the same with the really cool joystick controls, it sounds awesome till you realise that you can also fly the ship in 3rd person Freelancer mode making the whole intricate joystick stuff silly and fake.


I'm not going to say that E:D is a good game, it's very limited in many ways, but it works and delivers on core gameplay without ever having made use of the moronic hype and lies RSI has been using. I wouldn't at all be surpised if SC will completely nuke the whole backing/kickstarter concept, because people finally realise that all those ships they bought for hilarious amounts of cash are silly and lies, in a game that isn't what it was advertised to be.
Cien Banchiere
Extrinsic Arcadia Distribution
#8 - 2016-01-14 15:39:21 UTC
It's unfortunate the game development of SC is in such disarray. When first announced, it sounded like a badass concept that everyone with a kid inside that liked space would enjoy. Instead... it's a project that people throw money at with little tangilble results. It seems like for that past year or two development of SC has been spinning it's tires in the mud.

I don't wish anything bad for the production, but it does seem like the company is lost. And if you're gonna argue that just Google some articles questioning the state of the game.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#9 - 2016-01-14 16:37:44 UTC
C'mon, if you realy want to see all those nice pictures of planets and space, you dont need to buy SC, SpaceEngine is free, and was for a long time, there was even mod with EVE ships....
Annemariela Antonela
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2016-01-14 16:49:08 UTC
Pfft, please. Real space gamers only play Jupiter Lander.

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#11 - 2016-01-14 17:34:53 UTC
op eve had this too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pg1dzAvL2M

just because they have a pretty video doesn;t mean squat

and when scam citizen fails i will laugh hard core

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Jenshae Chiroptera
#12 - 2016-01-14 23:39:46 UTC
eug3nio Anninen wrote:
i just see this...i couldn't belive it ....
Call me when Star Citizen runs on Linux.
I might play it for a day or two. Blink

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Kasumi Kiritatsu
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2016-01-15 15:07:53 UTC
Not sure how I feel about SC currently. I've bought into the lowest package, and I have to say, if the game comes out with half of what is promised, it will be miraculous. As far as competing with EVE, it definitely has a lot that EVE lacks such as deep space immersion, and much better flying, but it also doesn't have things EVE has, such as a single server without instancing and the deep sandbox mechanics that EVE is so famous for.

Their persistent universe may end up being the best thing ever, only time will tell, but spend any time on their forums, and you'll see much of their community is expecting to be able to have every advantage without resorting to PvP. In fact, they have a "PvP slider" which determines how much PvP you can expect to see. I like EVE because it holds nothing back as far as what it aims to be. It is a universe that we all live in.

I have faith in CCP to keep delivering a solid product and innovating where they have to.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#14 - 2016-01-15 23:51:38 UTC
Hoping SC turns out good. No need to have to pick between it and EVE. It's not like having to choose between honey mustard or barbecue sauce with your McNuggets. You can have both SC and EVE.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#15 - 2016-01-16 00:07:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
SC will turn out below expectations, ending in elite dangerous being at the same level, if not, when it comes to fun and replayability, that is what people that already test it say in the videos,and they provide valuable informations and hints why it would be so. Another thing is some people went berserk with all those stupid claims it will be the best game ever, with all features they want and even more, and you know the developers and Robert still believes it will be. Well, they dont have time to play something else apparently. Trying to cram everything into a game so as the wheels will come off doesnt really make game the best ever. Just like Duke Nukem Forever, that game even holds the record: 1996-2011 (15 years in development), clearly not a best game ever despite that.
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#16 - 2016-01-16 07:27:29 UTC
*makes popcorn*

Hey, who remembers Daikatana?

*cloaks and warps out*

Bear

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#17 - 2016-01-16 16:11:52 UTC
Mike Adoulin wrote:
*makes popcorn*

Hey, who remembers Daikatana?

*cloaks and warps out*

That's unfair. At least Romero had some pedigree and a solid history of good games behind him. The best game Roberts put his name on was one that he hated and tried to un-make the next time he got around to be in control.
Robert Sawyer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#18 - 2016-01-16 19:52:45 UTC
The only common thing that EVE and SC have in common is space - ours is not a cockpit-based FPS (First Person Simulator). I'd rather say that it's in competition with Elite Dangerous (a rather stale game, but fun to dip in from time to time).\

CCP promised us planet landings once, but failed to deliver.
I'd happily continue playing EVE, but stay the hell away from SC. It's a publicity stunt that is a garbled mess of a simulator, shooter etc. A scam, if you will.

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