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On the topic of High-sec Player Security (A discussion about ganking)

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Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#101 - 2016-01-15 03:51:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Mobadder Thworst
I consider myself a morally straight and honest person.

However, Eve, to me, is Grand Theft Auto: Space Edition. I bought a game where I was promised I could be a villain. Is it morally wrong to play the character I was promised?

I want to be a good villain.

I steal, gank, extort, deceive, confuse, anger and destroy as much as possible.

Over the years, I'm sure lots of people saw me as bad..

I don't buy it, I was just playing a character in a game.
Amarrchecko
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#102 - 2016-01-15 03:57:20 UTC
Raithial Dan'Arona wrote:
Since evidently you did not propperly read what I write I'll work through your post and see if anything I say does stick now.

"Well OP, I suggest you get a band of players together with sufficient force of arms or economic clout to do something about the CODE. CCP has made thier position clear. Many players, who have just as much right to their fame play as you do, also agree that HiSec has been made far too safe and as a result activity has become stagnant."

1. CCP has made their position clear.
2. I am not trying to engage if "fame play".
3. If CCP finds High-sec space too safe, they can change it themselves. They don't need some player-based racketeering branch to do that for them.

"Code has triggered more forum activities in the last year than any other single group. In fact look at just how many AFK miners, freighters, and others have been encouraged not just to PLAY the game, but to come here to vent their impotence at how unsafe a competitive pvp game is. "

1. CODE. has no right to dictate to others how they should play the game.
2. This post is not ment to vent any impotence of any kind. While I cannot speak for others, this one is an attempt to find likeminded people who are just as opposed to CODE. dictating how others play this game.
3. I don't mind Unsafe PVP-based games, I enjoy the compettitive nature of most. But this isn't about how Unsafe it is, it's about CODE. Dictating to others how they play said game. They are neither devellopers or moderators, after all.

"It reminds me of the overly entitled teenager who fails their tests and announce, "it is just not fair. ""
1. no, it's more like a student getting bullied incessantly and going to a teacher "Teacher, they're bullying" and when the teacher shrugs his shoulders saying "There is no rule against bullying", that the student starts to talk to other students about how to counter this sort of bullying.
Get your analogies straight.

"And so forth. None the less, demanding that others do for you is not a noble call to arms. If you want to be a space trucker with no consequences might I suggest Elite."
1. I am more than willing to get right in there with my nose to the grinding-stone, but in order to be able to combat a group like CODE. one needs allies. And where can one find people like that? Ohh, right! On the ******* forums.. like this.
2. Do not assume anything, and read very carefully what I write at all times. I use specific words for specific reasons, and trying to say "go play Elite if you don't like EVE" is more than a little insult to the time and efford I have put in EVE so far.

"Otherwise, be the revolutionary if you wish. Rise up enmasse amd rewrite the rules if you want. But for the love of all, stop stamping your little feet and demanding that CCP change the rules to just suit your "one moral game play" at the cost of others. It makes you sound like a petulant child being told NO for the first time."
1. Once again you make the mistake of assuming that I want CCP to change the rules. I might disagree and voice my disagreement, I do accept their ruling and am trying to work inside the system to change them. Which is why I am trying to find likeminded people on these forums to counter CODE.


Now that I've adressed every point you made, either join the conversation in a constructive manner without strawmen arguments, or simply **** off.


That's gold, Jerry! Gold!
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#103 - 2016-01-15 04:03:02 UTC
Tl;dr please
I'm way too lazy to read the last 2 pages :P

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

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Paranoid Loyd
#104 - 2016-01-15 04:19:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Tl;dr please
I'm way too lazy to read the last 2 pages :P

The guy has some brain cells they're just wired a little screwy. There may be hope for him. Time will tell.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Nitshe Razvedka
#105 - 2016-01-15 06:30:17 UTC
Well Raithial Dan'Arona, you have run the C&P gauntlet, withered their arrows, learnt a little. Smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9_hCjcFNO0

Next you undock you are in good company. Big smile

Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.

Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#106 - 2016-01-15 11:07:12 UTC
Calm down miner!

Maybe next time you try to PvP in New Order territory you bring something other than a mining barge or a freighter to the fight. It's always good to be prepared. No need to cry about it afterwards.

Also I just want to quickly thank our goonswarm overlords for making all this possible.
Nitshe Razvedka
#107 - 2016-01-15 13:43:10 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Calm down miner!

Maybe next time you try to PvP in New Order territory you bring something other than a mining barge or a freighter to the fight. It's always good to be prepared. No need to cry about it afterwards.

Also I just want to quickly thank our goonswarm overlords for making all this possible.

Zombie cult CODE monkey girl has come back to life for a last repechage, must remember to aim for the head........Lol

Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.

Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#108 - 2016-01-15 13:48:57 UTC
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Calm down miner!

Maybe next time you try to PvP in New Order territory you bring something other than a mining barge or a freighter to the fight. It's always good to be prepared. No need to cry about it afterwards.

Also I just want to quickly thank our goonswarm overlords for making all this possible.

Zombie cult CODE monkey girl has come back to life for a last repechage, must remember to aim for the head........Lol

Not sure what you talk about random NPC forum alt.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#109 - 2016-01-15 14:04:08 UTC
Raithial Dan'Arona wrote:
1. CODE. has no right to dictate to others how they should play the game.


Of course we do, we have guns and we're not afraid to use them. Welcome to Eve.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff

Giaus Felix
Doomheim
#110 - 2016-01-15 16:06:11 UTC
admiral root wrote:
Raithial Dan'Arona wrote:
1. CODE. has no right to dictate to others how they should play the game.


Of course we do, we have guns and we're not afraid to use them. Welcome to Eve.
TL;DR In Eve might makes right, deal with it.

I came for the spaceships, I stayed for the tears.

Nitshe Razvedka
#111 - 2016-01-15 16:16:10 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Calm down miner!

Maybe next time you try to PvP in New Order territory you bring something other than a mining barge or a freighter to the fight. It's always good to be prepared. No need to cry about it afterwards.

Also I just want to quickly thank our goonswarm overlords for making all this possible.

Zombie cult CODE monkey girl has come back to life for a last repechage, must remember to aim for the head........Lol

Not sure what you talk about random NPC forum alt.


Random CODE flunky, you docked up in Uedama with so many MERCs around got plenty of time to post? My excuse is I'm afk mining n hauling.Big smile

Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.

Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#112 - 2016-01-15 16:35:44 UTC
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Random CODE flunky, you docked up in Uedama with so many MERCs around got plenty of time to post? My excuse is I'm afk mining n hauling.Big smile

Not sure what you mean. Never encountered a merc while dunking miners lately. Hope it was not too expensive.
Nitshe Razvedka
#113 - 2016-01-15 16:48:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Nitshe Razvedka
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Random CODE flunky, you docked up in Uedama with so many MERCs around got plenty of time to post? My excuse is I'm afk mining n hauling.Big smile

Not sure what you mean. Never encountered a merc while dunking miners lately. Hope it was not too expensive.

Sound buthurt from all the MERC kill mails on CODE, try some ice.

Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.

Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.

Isaac Armer
The Soup Kitchen
#114 - 2016-01-15 16:53:51 UTC
wait, wait...before Ima Wreckyou or Nitshe posts again give me a minute...


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https://i.imgur.com/YCzMI.gif
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#115 - 2016-01-15 17:04:48 UTC
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Random CODE flunky, you docked up in Uedama with so many MERCs around got plenty of time to post? My excuse is I'm afk mining n hauling.Big smile

Not sure what you mean. Never encountered a merc while dunking miners lately. Hope it was not too expensive.

Sound buthurt from all the MERC kill mails on CODE, try some ice.


Lol, we are asked to whore on the kms, and I still don't do it because well CONCORD doesn't deserve to be on my KMs ;)
and to top it off, we dunk miners all the time haha!

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome

CCL Loyalist

Nitshe Razvedka
#116 - 2016-01-15 17:12:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Nitshe Razvedka
The Marmite KB for the 13th is replete with CODE kills, the snakes are being cleared from the field (in Uedama at least). Smile

Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.

Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#117 - 2016-01-15 17:30:17 UTC
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Are you saying you are personally not killing CODE even though your CEO has told you to as part of a wardec; or you are not ganking? What?

What did you expect? Do you think some random NPC forum alt can kill CODE. by just throwing money at some mercs? I am sure they have a good time making fun of you while they use your money to do other things.
Nitshe Razvedka
#118 - 2016-01-15 17:35:24 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Are you saying you are personally not killing CODE even though your CEO has told you to as part of a wardec; or you are not ganking? What?

What did you expect? Do you think some random NPC forum alt can kill CODE. by just throwing money at some mercs? I am sure they have a good time making fun of you while they use your money to do other things.

Those goggles are for welding, not reading. Or maybe I can read your feeble mind before you speak.

Read the above post again and say " I'm not one of them, I'm one of them, I'm one of them...."Evil

Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.

Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.

Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#119 - 2016-01-15 18:04:26 UTC
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
The Marmite KB for the 13th is replete with CODE kills, the snakes are being cleared from the field (in Uedama at least). Smile


We whore on CODE. kills
Lern 2 reed m8

The only time the other Marmite will shoot CODE. is if they're ganking on the gate we're sitting on.
And by the time we start shooting, the target is already dead and the gankers are mostly in their empty pods... hahahaha

Nitshe Razvedka wrote:

Those goggles are for welding, not reading. Smile


hahaha, is it weird I have the same (totally awesome btw) goggles? must be totally coincidental lol

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome

CCL Loyalist

Nitshe Razvedka
#120 - 2016-01-15 19:15:27 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
The Marmite KB for the 13th is replete with CODE kills, the snakes are being cleared from the field (in Uedama at least). Smile


We whore on CODE. kills
Lern 2 reed m8

The only time the other Marmite will shoot CODE. is if they're ganking on the gate we're sitting on.
And by the time we start shooting, the target is already dead and the gankers are mostly in their empty pods... hahahaha

Nitshe Razvedka wrote:

Those goggles are for welding, not reading. Smile


hahaha, is it weird I have the same (totally awesome btw) goggles? must be totally coincidental lol

So what you are saying is you don't follow you CEO's intent or orders when a wardec contract is on?

Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.

Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.