Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Go way back to before this thread was made. My point has always been the AFK part of the equation in null is just a symptom of a larger balance problem.


And no Teckos, your fozzie radio quote didn't say cloaks were balanced. The balance is handwaved because the effect on prey professions is more important than balance. The problem is recognized and ignored because they simply don't want to develop anything further, presumably intending to visit the issue with OA, but at this point we are still looking at leaving them broken for years because **** prey professions.

Taking targets of opportunity isn't bad FFS. However, taking targets of opportunity only in a certain place and irrespective to the type or identification of those targets isn't hunting a ship already entrenched in a system. That any ship at all can be caught at a gate says exactly nothing that a ship that happens to have a cloak equipped can be caught there too. A ship using a cloak can be anywhere it wants more than 2k from another object and may as well be docked for all you can do about it. Does not matter if it's on grid or off grid, so long as they fly with a modicum of intelligence they are perfectly safe.

That's all it ever was. No matter what lies or flimsy justifications or smokescreens they spew.

All they want is just one more nerf, to make PvE even more absurdly safe than it already is. It's not enough that their chosen form of "content" is basically completely free of risk, no, they want to be able to pretend like this multiplayer single shard PvP sandbox is a single player game when it's convenient for them.

And cloaking devices break their bullshit illusion, so to salve that cognitive dissonance created between the reality of EVE and the lies they tell themselves, they deem it "broken" or "unfair", and cry bitter tears against it on the forums, hoping that CCP will once again cave in like they have so many times in the past, and nerf or functionally delete yet another perfectly balanced mechanic.

And you know what that interceptor pilot is doing to make that level of safety OK?

Constant, active effort. The very thing that cloaks do not need to do, because an active cloak is inviolate barring bad pilots or bad luck.

So what? The issue isn't local. Local needs no counter because it's actually balanced by being freely available to all in system. It does not favor one side or the other with its charms, other than unavoidable hardware issues, which have had fixes to pull that advantage to the hunter's side.

The issue is the safety vs. the level of activity available under cloak. If you can do *anything* not available in a station that another player would want to stop, then you need to be vulnerable. Either fix the safety, or fix the activity. The current state isn't balanced.

It's the only issue at all.

It's the elephant in the room bud. I doubt you or I will get an answer, but I will also ask. Again.

What mechanic are they using to interact with you, whilst they are AFK?

Morrigan
Lets apply reciprocity to that ignorance is bliss theory of yours.

The module that can find cloaked ships should not be visible to the target. Because then he will not know it is there.

No need for what exactly? To be afk, to use a cloak, or to camp?

So it's your argument that specific intel holds no value? No efforts to catch spies are ever needed in game? Acting as a warp in to your fleet is useless?

If you have any effect that an enemy would want or need to interrupt, then it's too safe under a cloak. Remove the ability or adjust the safety of cloaks.

Now you've just gone off the deep end of crazy. Your post doesn't even make the slightest of sense.