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Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#81 - 2016-01-14 06:00:26 UTC
You need to seperate sales from LP store vs market.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#82 - 2016-01-14 10:22:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Never said i was special. What insecurity in your personality made you think i did?

Also, perhaps you are under the impression that once a thread goes to the next page, that all previous comments are lost?

Caleb Seremshur wrote:
I risk towers worth billions per month

Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Getting paid to do my job ain't nothing to sniff at


Clearly you have taken my nullbear comment very personally. Since then you have done nothing but display your shamefully small epeen for all to see. That was a mistake from where im sitting.


Probably the part where you talked about your extreme risks. In a garmur. Where other people have said it all before.

It's that sense of communal ownership that makes a nation a nation. An empire an empire. Yeah you might not have any real power over it but you are still a part of it and without a sense of ownership over where you live what are you even playing in null for?

There's no epeen but yours being wagged throwing your sad achievements around.



Lots of people risk a lot of isk doing silly stuff. Wonder why you think that is special?

Also, that was a very stirring admission to being a nullbear, Well done!

The problematic villianisation of the 'other' was disturbing though. To paraphrase -

"Even though i never risk anything my achievements are amazng but your achievements are sad by default even though you put your personal asssets o the line".

Now, im not going to go as far as breaking godwins law, but this kind of rhetoric always indicates a certain type of thinking.
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#83 - 2016-01-14 14:09:35 UTC
Totally ignoring again my history with FW, lowsec empire, highsec wardeccing, industry, wormholes etcetera......

Going to the part of space that the ******* game is centrally designed to support is now a bad thing I didn't know? Pity me I didn't realise that all the big updates that have been 2+ years in the design phase and coming this year were only meant for lowsec champions like yourself but oh wait I'm not even sure if any of those player built structures are even designed for your space. Shame I can't be bothered checking because the limitations of lowsec on gameplay are irrelevant to me in my current occupation.

Crosi - really. stahp, comparing me to ideological extremists is patently ridiculous.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#84 - 2016-01-14 14:38:05 UTC
I didnt say being a nullbear was a bad thing. Wow, this has really hurt you. Im sorry.

Im sure you are teh best player in eve. TBH props, it must be hard getting all that solo/small gang experience mentioned in you sig while flying logistics in 250 man fleets lol.
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#85 - 2016-01-15 03:35:41 UTC
I can't tell if its the whiskey or the laughing that has given me a dry throat.

You're out of touch mate. Also you don't understand the meaning of advocate?

Let's have an impartial rundown of where we are right now. In lowsec you are being the same guy that I remember from 2 years ago. Today in venal razor is fighting a 3v1 war with OOS+2 v RZR over control of moons, pocos and a jf route complete with npc stations that let anyone dock. Just last night we reinforced 4 towers. Hopefully OOS will come to defend at least one of them with their capital fleet. To date both alliances have titans deployed but not really any supers.

This exchange demonstrates I'm a null bear by your metric. I'm OK with being a small cog in a big machine. To each their own Crosi if you have only ever known dominion or tower sov that's your perogative not mine. Doesn't change the fact that you fly coward fit garmurs with links and pat yourself on the back for each newbie you kill.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#86 - 2016-01-15 04:14:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Out of touch how?

I know the meaning of the word advocate. I also know the meaning of the word veteran. Are you suggesting that you are a veteran advocate or a veteran of small gang and solo? If you mean veteran advocate with very limited solo small gang experience i would accept that.

As for flying a coward garmur. I know a lot of people give it a bad name. But if you think me warping a tankless kite worth 300m with an expensive pod into dozens of people time and again at zero is cowardly, then i think we have our definitions mixed up.

Perhaps bravery in your eyes is flying a ship that you didnt pay for while having almost no impact on the fight, a fight that wont benefit you beyond free ships during a campaign that the CFC has very little at stake, since most people are in the CFC, to contribute to the wealth of a very small number of people both in and out of the game? Again our definitions are not aligned :)
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#87 - 2016-01-15 07:21:23 UTC
I advocate small gang because that's where I started and it's a part of the game that doesn't get enough dev attention. Level 5's, burner missions, facwar missions as a couple of examples of things that aren't strictly designed for small gang but could have been and had the balls to drive it home. As it stands nearly all of these things can be solo'd by frigates or kitey HACs because ccp need that everywhere all the time? Small gang pvp can maybe siege towers in wormholes, the proliferation of OGB (going to die soon we hope) making true solo harder than ever. Small fleets are my preferred space - 3-5 ships including ewar and a logi.

Since moving to null that hasn't happened like it used to. Which is sad but I'm ok with that. The last such fleet cost me a naga.

What you're doing is the equivalent of driving a DD straight in to flat arc range of enemy CA and then feeling proud of yourself. Risk is relative. Yes I get paid to do what I do, I also make money through other channels without ever shooting a rat or mining. I manufacture in order to stimulate local economy instead of importing or building in high.

Because buying off your own people just sometimes makes more sense. It's about providing the best service to your own alliance. Getting kills personally isn't that important in the long run as compared to supplying ships at 40% of jita cost. Null is objective based gameplay. It requires a more diverse range of personalities than other spaces, the same as wormholes can cause problems for an entirely different kind of player. Bravery is relative too, flying in to a fight you know you're going to die in no matter what you do.

I'd really love to see your citation about the cfcs population. Normalised for awols and alts of course. Lastly in reference to an above point I think I make far more profit from the labor of my alliance members than I pay in fees to Papa Bee. In fact by my own accounting I've spent probably about 40bil on bpcs/bpos and minerals in the last 6 month and turned profit on it the whole way through. Tax for goons? 180mil. Thats it. That's what they've made from me. My value to an organisation isn't simply measured by kb statistics. If this is being a nullbear like you originally said then I'm cool with that because butterfly effect and so on aka my work isn't that easy to calculate value for.

In time I'm sure I will be in the right timezone to fight in one of our lowsec skirmishes again but as it is they all take place at 4am local which is a damn shame for me.
Silverbackyererse
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#88 - 2016-01-15 09:08:25 UTC
This thread is now going places.

Caleb and Crosi could go maybe go places too. I suggest somewhere with a free bottle of bubbles, complimentary chocolates and a nice hot tub where you can work on each others extremely tight shoulder muscles in privacy. Blink

Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#89 - 2016-01-15 09:40:02 UTC
Silverbackyererse wrote:
This thread is now going places.

Caleb and Crosi could go maybe go places too. I suggest somewhere with a free bottle of bubbles, complimentary chocolates and a nice hot tub where you can work on each others extremely tight shoulder muscles in privacy. Blink



I prefer men. With hair on their chin. As you can plainly see Crosi has a girls face.
Roy Henry
Black Fox Marauders
Pen Is Out
#90 - 2016-01-15 14:47:57 UTC
I love people who don't understand the metagame of a fw career at all. Even better are those who claim to have experience in fw and still don't understand the work individual pilots put in that make the dynamic fw lifestyle what it is.

To claim crosi does not partake in content that is any more or less impactful or fuffilling compared to that of a nullsec pilot clearly demonstrates that you do not understand what pilots like him do on a daily or weekly cycle to help maintain the gal cal region.

Those of us, both pilots and corps that care about having an impact in the region we live are rewarded by getting to visually see our work in action in the security of the systems we defend.

The feeling is similarly visceral when you get lazy and watch things burn down around you.

I'm not saying null or fw "sov" mechanics are any more rewarding, but I think people overlook the huge amount of meta gaming that goes on, as well as completely voluntary dedication of pilots and corps that work together to achieve goals big and small.

If you like being part of null empire building mechanics, try getting involved in fw on an organizational level, you will probably like it.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#91 - 2016-01-15 14:48:33 UTC
That was a lot of woffle caleb. Seems like you havent vented in a while.

Best bit was when you challanged my assertion that cfc were far bigger than any other coalition lol.
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#92 - 2016-01-16 04:46:30 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
That was a lot of woffle caleb. Seems like you havent vented in a while.

Best bit was when you challanged my assertion that cfc were far bigger than any other coalition lol.


Like when I asked you to back up your claim with some sort of evidence that cfc have the most active players. I doubt cfc could field 1000 pilots at a time anymore.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#93 - 2016-01-16 11:25:25 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
That was a lot of woffle caleb. Seems like you havent vented in a while.

Best bit was when you challanged my assertion that cfc were far bigger than any other coalition lol.


Like when I asked you to back up your claim with some sort of evidence that cfc have the most active players. I doubt cfc could field 1000 pilots at a time anymore.


Unlike all those other coalitions that can?

Dude, theyve had nearly 1000 people active in black rise some evenings in recent weeks, looking for pvp. If by pvp you include shooting structures. I thought my local window was broken, from mushi to kedama 230 goons in every system lol.
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#94 - 2016-01-16 13:43:40 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Totally ignoring again my history with FW, lowsec empire, highsec wardeccing, industry, wormholes etcetera......

Going to the part of space that the ******* game is centrally designed to support is now a bad thing I didn't know? Pity me I didn't realise that all the big updates that have been 2+ years in the design phase and coming this year were only meant for lowsec champions like yourself but oh wait I'm not even sure if any of those player built structures are even designed for your space. Shame I can't be bothered checking because the limitations of lowsec on gameplay are irrelevant to me in my current occupation.

Crosi - really. stahp, comparing me to ideological extremists is patently ridiculous.


*cringe*

Just Add Water

Oreb Wing
Last Rites.
#95 - 2016-01-16 17:00:50 UTC
Ye.. Gewns just busy with fallout 4 I bet. Fear the ping.

Ps. CCP please make null fun again; why these fuggers out in low sec!
Queen Z'dali
Thukka Tribe
#96 - 2016-01-27 09:58:23 UTC
im the only one here missing Bohica Empire ??

The victims' flesh will be cut from their bodies and distributed to members of the society...

Oreb Wing
Last Rites.
#97 - 2016-01-27 11:55:01 UTC
Queen Z'dali wrote:
im the only one here missing Bohica Empire ??


No. They were the reason for our beating non-FW entities WHILE assaulting the war zone for the 2nd time (the no medal dat time).
Queen Z'dali
Thukka Tribe
#98 - 2016-01-27 13:44:37 UTC
hehe my main still have red background =)

The victims' flesh will be cut from their bodies and distributed to members of the society...

Abannan
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#99 - 2016-01-27 23:35:13 UTC
I've not missed the feeling of what it's like to win fw whatsoever.
Morgan Agrivar
Doomheim
#100 - 2016-02-07 08:45:49 UTC
Bohica Empire was lame as hell. When I was in them, all they did was talk smack on Teamspeak and didn't hunt at all. They only went hunting if there was more than 10 in a fleet. And those two CQB members?

Never heard of them...