EVE New Citizens Q&A

You mean Avvy's not a posting alt?!

Yet seriously, It's a good point. Too much time away from eve can really detach you from a character as well as Eve meta. As fits, tactics and commonly flown ships are changed/introduced. What you thought you knew 8 months ago or more might be altered severely.

The fate of the Rifter comes to mind.

Anybody can checkmate with a queen and rook; it's boring. A "good" checkmate is if you can do it with 2 pawns.

Other than on price, frigates are very newbie-unfriendly to fly in combat.

The primary defenses a frigate has are twofold:

- Being underestimated (not something you can rely upon) and
- Being hard to hit.

The thing is, frigates are only hard to hit if you understand EVE's various to-hit mechanics well and exploit that knowledge. If you can't do that, you are defenseless. I remember instapopping a well-fit Atron that tried to burn away from me because they didn't know to do it at an angle.

Cruisers at least have the buffer to let you screw up and live.

Try a cruiser fight or five.

as does the gila ... and the ishthar

All drone boats were nerfed into oblivion with the introduction of drone bandwidth... maybe a necessary change, maybe not. I'm kinda bummed about missing out on flying an Ishkur with 5 Hammerhead II's :D

But judging from the posts, I will await 6 months till the next thread about how EVE is broken cause your T2 ship was blown up by someone with half the SP and a T1 ship that actually played the game instead of just skilling SP and thus knows the game and its mechanics and tactics.


As I guess that will be the next thread.


This is not to be negative about you, but a big big part of EVE is, funny enough, playing the game. And learning about the game by playing, just training SP while playing something awesome as Fallout 4, won't get you famliar with the game concept and thus you won't be any better if you have 1.5 or 150 million SP.

What about the days of Drake Online

Pff, kids these days.

You can fly larger ships fairly quickly. I got into a caracal fairly quickly( like 2 weeks) and ran missions in that for another 7-10 days before buying a drake. After i bought a drake i never looked back.

Now i fly primarily battlecruisers and battleships for sov/fleet pvp and t2 and t3 cruisers for pvp. I rarely fly anything below a cruiser and if i do its a t2 or t3. I have never been a fan of frigs or destroyers.

A lot of people prefer frigs and destroyers because they are cheap and fast so you can buy a lot of them for the same price as a cruiser. However i dont have to buy t2 cruisers in large numbers like i you would frigs and destroyers. Most of my ships last many pvp encounters whereas the first to die are often frigs( because they tackle and are relatively squishy)

I would recommend( probably to flaming) to train missiles and then for a caracal. Missiles have the advantage of being noob friendly, they help teach you about damage types, and they have a long reach( which means you can stay back from the fight and are less likely to be primary). Then i would get into a drake with heavy missiles. You will have good range, and the drake has a brute tank even with poor tanking skills( assuming you fit it probably). It will also be one of the very last ships to ever be primaried in a fight because it has only ok DPS and a lot of Effective HP( again if you tank it right). Meaning that its not going to be high priority or a fast kill.

The drake ( provided the gang will let you fly one) is really the perfect ship to learn to pvp and pve in. It requires low skills to be decent, It has a good tank, long reach, and will probably be the last man standing ( at least on your side) in many encounters. Then when you get use to PVP and PVE in eve you can venture into other ships, weapons, and tanking methods.

That, in my opinion, is the least frustrating and best way to learn pvp in eve. And it will take you a long time to learn to be good at most in pvp. There are a lot of factors in pvp in eve that determine the outcome of a fight before the first shot is fired.

Nooooooooooo.

Fly t1 ships until you can t2 fit them, then consider using t2 ships.

Also if you ignore the game for 6 months while you skill you're still gonna be bad at the game when you come back. You'll expect the SP to save you and it will fail miserably because you have no idea how to play the game. All your T2 ships will die, and you will curse EvE's unfairness and rage quit :)

Seriously, EvE is hard and it takes WAY more practice than the vast majority of games to not be a newbie anymore. Actual brain skills and education in EvE's mechanics and loopholes will win the fight against a higher SP pilot who is less knowledgeable about the game 8 times out of 10.

Go out in your starter frig or rookie ship and try to steal someone's stuff, get in some fights, do anything it takes to experience the game and learn that it's not about upgrading ships. Real skills trump SP skills, believe otherwise and you will be the butt of many a killmail :D

Good luck, fly dangerous o/