Ships & Modules

Before I get into the meat of the matter, I have to focus on one snippet of what you said there, because we need to talk about that more than missions.



Any particular reason why this is?

Cross-training is a very important thing to do in this game. Sometimes your friends will depart in a shield-based frigate roam, sometimes they want to do an armor cruiser roam. Being able to fly and fit a wide variety of equipment broadens your ability to participate in the game. That's not even getting into the lengthy conversation about how some races do some roles better than others.

Being able to fit hybrids, lasers, projectiles, armor extenders, shield boosters, cap boosters, sensor dampeners, etc, may not be useful in any singular instance, but over time you should come to find that you needed everything listed and more. So, if you have a good reason why you don't want to cross-train, I'm all ears. I'm open to hearing new ideas and perspectives, but I think you are needlessly handicapping yourself by being shut-off to the idea.


That said, general rule of thumb is that destroyers when fit properly can do level 2 missions okay, but you might find cruiser to be more optimal. It's been a long time for me; I used to do Assault Frigate for everything level 1 - 3. Level 3 missions are designed to be done in battlecruisers most of the time.

Remember to fit hardeners that protect you from the specific damage profiles in each individual mission. Each faction you fly against will deal the same profile, so anytime you see "Blood Raiders" insignia in the mission briefing, you'll know to fit EM/Therm hardeners.

As you mission, you should be mindful of each faction's basic tactics. Each faction will use EWAR on you. In my earlier example, Blood Raiders will sometimes (depends on the mission) use turret disruption on you. Knowing that ahead of time, and how to compensate for that, will help you greatly. Knowing which factions like to brawl you up close, verses ones that keep long range, will help you figure out which sorts of fits to use, like pulse or beam, tracking computer or web, etc.

The "Bible" of mission-running is found at http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=MissionReports , where they tell you what to expect in each mission and recommend ships and damage types to use. However, for some odd reason, that site does go down from time to time, so learning the basics of each faction will help tide you over in those times. Also, some of the missions have been changed in recent weeks and that site hasn't been updated on some specific details, so I should put in a caveat that the missions may differ slightly from what you read on that site.

All of that said, you did ask a specific question, and I will give you a specific answer to the best of my abilities. If you are dead-set on not cross-training, you'll be forced into the Harbinger, which uses lasers. On paper (I have no personal experience using it), it looks like it will perform well if you fit it properly. Your only other option is the Prophesy, which will require cross-training in the realm of drones. I do recommend the Prophesy over Harbinger, because drones give you damage selection, which will help you clear missions a lot easier. Plus the Prophesy has a bonus to armor resistances, which means it's easier to survive. Easier offense and easier defense = fantastic mission boat in most circumstances.

Drones are a bit of a hassle to train, but they come with a bunch of benefits - like that the majority of ships in this game carry drones so it's something you'd want to train up to a point eventually.

" Best Amarr ship fit for L2 & L3 Security missions?" is Prophecy. Cause in mission you have to adapt your damage type to rats. And harbinger is limited to EM + thermal damage. Even in Amarr space you will face missions against angel cartel (you have to apply explosive damage agains them).

Best mission ship for low skill newbee - Gnosis. All bonuses from the start, can be configured as missles / drone boat. Good agility will let you escape / move between rooms quicker.

L2 can be done with passive shield fit. L3 fit depends on mission but usuall you have 2 mission specific hardeners and one repairer. Rest is gank or capacitor aid. Google "eve survival" to see what you can expect in mission.

Amarrs got two ways of getting into missions.

1)Drone ship line up — skip Dragoon for Arbitrator->Prophecy->Armageddon.
Prophecy suffers from rather limited bandwidth, but tanky and generous on reserves. Use that "reserves" part well, buy a lot of t1 drones and don't give a damn about usual "Return to drone bay, deploy again" crap. Ignore energy turrets on prophecy - Bloods and Sansha will track disrupt it into smithereens. Use missiles, use Rapid Light Missile Launchers and think of it as your secondary weapon.
Armageddon is best served with same approach: kill everything with sentries, then add your Rapid Heavy Launchers to everything that somehow gets too close.
Still, Gallente got simply better options for the drone ships. Dominix is better sentry sniper, Myrmidon tanks a LOT and perfect candidate for undersized permarunned deadspace repairer, Vexor got sensible gun rack bonused for damage.

2)LAZORS — would be good if it wasn't for bloods and sansha using perfect counter to your LAZORS as their EWAR of choice. It's way for Coercer->Harbinger->Apocalypse->Paladin. You WILL have to be picky with missions you get, heavy EWAR ones are no-no. When you actually get to Paladin, you get Bastion and that means EWAR IMMUNITY mode, which actually allow LAZORS to shine.
Apocalypse, despite having one of the best capacitors around, will blaze through it with guns alone in 5 minutes straight. Consider using cap booster for prolonged battles. Sure, it's like buying ammo, thus eliminating "Hurr no ammo runs, durr no expenses" part, but you don't need these 100% of time, just for prolonged battles.g

Again, untill you get into paladin, Amarr laser ships are inferior to Minmatar (long range on their "short range" weapon system (Autocannons), very cool damage selection (75% EM, 80% either Explosive or Thermal - what's not to love?)) and, especially, Angel Cartel lineup, which got everything minmatars have + fast speeds, fast warp speeds and even more damage boosts.
Then again, Minmatars got Vargur that still got better damage selection than Paladin and same EWAR immunity if needed.

I was able to do any level 2 or 3 mission in a confessor

Best answer. Maybe worrying a bit too much about ewar, but then again, better to worry too much than be unprepared.

Get a cruiser like a maller or omen for 2's and the a harbinger for lvl3. Don't cross train so early in your eve career, rather focus on core skills. If you like drones maybe go the arbitrater/prophecy route, me personally would just stick with the lasers and t2 light drones for now.

He is 3 days old.. confessor really isn't an option for new players

*chuckles*

I've done it with my Confessor. And later on i've jumped into Legion when lvl4's became available. T3's got nasty natural resists, so those tank easily 99% of income damages dealt be npc.

It's generally less efficient to cross tank or , in this case, run a repper and a plate together. You'd probably be better off dropping the plate for something else, EANM or maybe even a heatsink for more damage. Another CPR would allow you to drop the CR II for something else, like a TC or Sebo. That said, if the fit is comfortable enough, stick with what you have. The plate isn't really helping you that much, though.