Ships & Modules

I would suggest going though and using the show info button on most things you don't understand they tend to be pretty straightforward in explaining ship and modules that they can utilize.


However, HIC's are a Cruiser sized Heavy Tackle ship that can boast a very strong tank, have very high sensor strength and scan resolution, they are however fairly slow and tend not to put out a very large amount of DPS generally staying around ~450 to ~500.

They can use a module specific to their hull only called Warp Disruption Field Generator, which will bubble an area somewhere around 30km or so. I can't remember the exact range off the top of my head. However this module has some penalties that come with its use, when active it will increase your sig radius, reduce the effectiveness of an AB or MWD, and disallows any and all remote assistance, like Reps, or remote sensor boosters and tracking computers.

The WDFG can be scripted, like a Tracking Computer or Sensor booster, called a Focused Warp Disruption Script. This Script has an infinite point strength,(Points general have one point of point Strength, and Scrams 2, though faction points can have up to three) meaning Warp Core Stabs will not work against it, no matter how many you fit. It also has been given a newly bonused ability, having projecting scram effects on ships, which turn off MWD's and MJD's. The Focused Point also keeps Capital ships from jumping gates. The scripted version of the WDFG can be used in Empire Space, however the unscripted version CAN NOT be used.

Your counter to getting away from a hic is to be faster than it, burning out of it's range, bring enough DPS to break it's tank before backup lands, which will also force it drop it's point so it can take reps. Jamming or Damping is not recommended because it tends to have again High sensor strengths. It's high sensor strength also makes it a fairly fast locker even without sensor boosters making it difficult to avoid it catching a lock on you, even unboosted the scan resolution tends to be about 460ish, and can reach up to 1200 boosted.


I hope that answers your question.

Also note, Hics are very Cap sensitive... unless they have fit a cap booster or given up some of their tank (even then...)

Awesome. Thanks, answered every question I had. One more popped up though. Interdiction nullifier subsystems, Will the scripted version affect those?

Interdiction Nullifier neutralizes bubbles only.

If that's true then CCP mades these changes to the HICs to deal with ceptors and nullified T3Cs...

Yeah, interceptors and nullified T3s are still pretty safe. However blockade runners and all ships using MWD+cloak trick are now very threatened by buffed HICs.

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Classic Onyx PvP fit:

[Onyx, PvP Buffer Tank]
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Damage Control II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
EM Ward Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Warp Disruption Field Generator II, Focused Warp Disruption Script

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

It's cap runs out in 122 seconds.

another I doubt it. only affects things you can lock. MWD+cloak ships tend to rely on not ever getting locked. most MWD+cloak ships were already dead if they got targeted, unless they could beat the other ship speedwise.

my main concern (most of this is related to small gang) is it seems oppressive to have a 37.5km scram. so people that are actually flying their ships in pvp. Ceptors have a scram bonus, something like 12km and 30 on long points. imagine a caracal gang with a onyx or two... a ceptor gets scramed before it can even get into point range. add links + faction + heat and it can, but I don't really think that is a good place to be. getting newbros in tackle frigs has been a long running practice. getting scrammed and then one or two volleyed from 37.5km away is probably about as fun as getting falcon'd

battleships... get rek'd. at least they can fit heavy neuts. although CCP deleted many utility, especially the second utility high, highs at some point, -600/24s will be countered by a cap booster. also a hic can sit on the edge of falloff and should be pretty okay there, -150?/24s isn't really all that bad.

BCs got a buff recently, but I'm not sure many of them can stand up to hic points. lower damage/range than battleships and med neuts don't have the range.

on the plus side, maybe it helps balance the orthrus :p

Can safely say that as one of these high sec HIC pilots the best counter against me would be neuts or ECM.
HICs use alot of cap to keep there warp field generator online and having to MWD towards you so you cannot approach gate, well timed neut cycle would completely cap me.

Maybe he said it as he longingly looked off into a distant past where he mined in a rokh?!

Exactly!