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Srsly, something has to be done about incursions.

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State War Academy
Caldari State
#61 - 2012-01-09 22:02:29 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
NULL SECers once again crying because someone in HI SEC can make some ISK... Want to make REAL ISK with no RISK get a TECH MOON! I say NERF the TECH MOONs and say have drones poop techtanium dollups so its not just a NULL SEC passive farm item. At least HI sec Incursions are not a passive way to make you rich


How about CCP nerf tech moons AND highsec incursions?

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
mkint
#62 - 2012-01-09 22:05:56 UTC
Gogela wrote:

I still don't see what any of this has to do with adjusting the way incursions work.

Nullbear RMTers want to stamp out any competition before it shows up. CSM, with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions, are nullbear RMTers. CCP Greyscale develops the game in ways that favor the nullbear RMTers and crushes competition. A big collaboration of nullbear RMTers deciding how to develop a game asset that threatens their livelihoods? Take a wild guess as to what direction it will go.

In EVE one thing is sure to never change... to get sov you must have supers. to get supers, you must have sov. Changing that would threaten the RMT machine.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
The D1ngo
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2012-01-09 22:11:15 UTC
Look honey! Harry got a nice new car.

Wait! I don't have a nice new car!

Harry is screwing me over....
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#64 - 2012-01-09 22:15:44 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Replace ISK with (more) LP. Everyone wins.



I just needed to quote this as it's the ultimate fix.

I have no issues with highsec incursions being very lucrative, but the obscene amounts of isk created from thin air are a problem (yes - that's banknotes).


Make activities redistribute isk instead of printing hundreds of billions every day. 
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Deviana Sevidon
Jades Falcon Guards
#65 - 2012-01-09 22:18:54 UTC
I think the OP is just an alt for one of the CSM members. The guys who want everything nerfed until people can only become serfs to their empires or quit.

....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced.
Admiral Pelleon
White Shadow Imperium
#66 - 2012-01-09 22:33:21 UTC
Many empire bears in here.

Adorable.

As soon as your gravy train is threatened, you all come out of the woodwork to post. HTFU and move out of your trade hubs.

Those who cannot keep up will be left behind, to watch from a distance. And those who stand in our way will not watch at all.
mkint
#67 - 2012-01-09 22:36:46 UTC
Admiral Pelleon wrote:
Many empire bears in here.

Adorable.

As soon as your gravy train is threatened, you all come out of the woodwork to post. HTFU and move out of your trade hubs.

*quoted for irony*

As if the nullbears aren't trying to protect their RMT interests by trying to kill incursions.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
Admiral Pelleon
White Shadow Imperium
#68 - 2012-01-09 22:40:37 UTC
mkint wrote:
Admiral Pelleon wrote:
Many empire bears in here.

Adorable.

As soon as your gravy train is threatened, you all come out of the woodwork to post. HTFU and move out of your trade hubs.

*quoted for irony*

As if the nullbears aren't trying to protect their RMT interests by trying to kill incursions.


Nullsec has risks. Highsec has none. If you'd like to play your 99.9% safe hello kitty online, be prepared to pay for it with less income.

Those who cannot keep up will be left behind, to watch from a distance. And those who stand in our way will not watch at all.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#69 - 2012-01-09 22:40:40 UTC
CCP Greyscale wrote:
Hi everyone,

We're in the process of scheduling some developer time to review the Incursion content, and make adjustments as needed. We've got a stack of feedback from the CSM, and we'll hopefully be blogging about it in the near future.

Thanks,
-Greyscale


As Tippia say: please tilt the rewards away from raw ISK and towards LP. LP are a valuable ISK sink. There is already a vast ISK surplus in the economy.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
mkint
#70 - 2012-01-09 22:44:11 UTC
Admiral Pelleon wrote:
mkint wrote:
Admiral Pelleon wrote:
Many empire bears in here.

Adorable.

As soon as your gravy train is threatened, you all come out of the woodwork to post. HTFU and move out of your trade hubs.

*quoted for irony*

As if the nullbears aren't trying to protect their RMT interests by trying to kill incursions.


Nullsec has risks. Highsec has none. If you'd like to play your 99.9% safe hello kitty online, be prepared to pay for it with less income.

Nullsec incursions pay nearly double. Let's do some math... double... >... not double... Or, half... <... not half...

Oh, but that's right, nullbears are too big of pussies to go out there and get any isk that isn't delivered to their silos every hour on the hour, wind rain or shine, and would rather b!tch and sh!t all over everyone elses' party.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
Barakkus
#71 - 2012-01-09 22:48:50 UTC
Admiral Pelleon wrote:
Many empire bears in here.

Adorable.

As soon as your gravy train is threatened, you all come out of the woodwork to post. HTFU and move out of your trade hubs.


You realize many, many pvp corps and alliances also utilize high sec incursions to fund pvp. It's not just a bunch of carebears.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Lyron-Baktos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2012-01-09 22:53:19 UTC
Barakkus wrote:
Admiral Pelleon wrote:
Many empire bears in here.

Adorable.

As soon as your gravy train is threatened, you all come out of the woodwork to post. HTFU and move out of your trade hubs.


You realize many, many pvp corps and alliances also utilize high sec incursions to fund pvp. It's not just a bunch of carebears.


agreed. For players that only care about PVP, incursions are really the only way to make decent isk so they can buy their pvp ships
Barakkus
#73 - 2012-01-09 22:55:30 UTC
Lyron-Baktos wrote:
Barakkus wrote:
Admiral Pelleon wrote:
Many empire bears in here.

Adorable.

As soon as your gravy train is threatened, you all come out of the woodwork to post. HTFU and move out of your trade hubs.


You realize many, many pvp corps and alliances also utilize high sec incursions to fund pvp. It's not just a bunch of carebears.


agreed. For players that only care about PVP, incursions are really the only way to make decent isk so they can buy their pvp ships


That is pretty much the only reason I run them and why I don't care when this happens to me:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10581371

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#74 - 2012-01-09 22:55:44 UTC
They can fund their PVP in low sec incursions, where they ought to be if they are PVPing in the first place. Defending weekend warriors is no excuse for justifying the stupid income available in high-sec.

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Barakkus
#75 - 2012-01-09 22:57:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Barakkus
Lady Spank wrote:
They can fund their PVP in low sec incursions, where they ought to be if they are PVPing in the first place. Defending weekend warriors is no excuse for justifying the stupid income available in high-sec.


It's not just weekend warriors and you know it, unless you wanna group Brick sQuad and Noir in the weekend warrior crowd.
Whether or not they're running on mains or alts, every single major alliance and corp has people running highsec incursions.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#76 - 2012-01-09 23:07:56 UTC
Barakkus wrote:
Lady Spank wrote:
They can fund their PVP in low sec incursions, where they ought to be if they are PVPing in the first place. Defending weekend warriors is no excuse for justifying the stupid income available in high-sec.


It's not just weekend warriors and you know it, unless you wanna group Brick sQuad and Noir in the weekend warrior crowd.
Whether or not they're running on mains or alts, every single major alliance and corp has people running highsec incursions.

So make them worthless to these groups.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)
Barakkus
#77 - 2012-01-09 23:09:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Barakkus
I have no problem with adjusting the null and lowsec incursions to make them even more attractive. I don't really have a problem with adjusting the isk/lp of highsec incursions. I have a problem with the hypocrites that post nerf incursion threads every other day and they're exploiting them themselves with their alts and laughing all the while and running around generalizing everyone running incursions in highsec as carebears, and yet they sit there and "carebear it up" just the same as everyone else...they just sit there and use alts so they can't be labeled "carebears" themselves. All they're doing is trolling.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#78 - 2012-01-09 23:43:27 UTC
Letrange wrote:
CCP Greyscale wrote:
Hi everyone,

We're in the process of scheduling some developer time to review the Incursion content, and make adjustments as needed. We've got a stack of feedback from the CSM, and we'll hopefully be blogging about it in the near future.

Thanks,
-Greyscale

So, what you're saying is that the CSM (which consists of prety much only 0.0 leaders) was bitching that their pilots were up in high sec running incursions instead of being in their fleets in 0.0 like they want. I predict an incoming hard nerf since the squeaky whines are coming from the CSM this time.



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Theodemir
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#79 - 2012-01-09 23:59:56 UTC
Morganta wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
NULL SECers once again crying because someone in HI SEC can make some ISK... Want to make REAL ISK with no RISK get a TECH MOON! I say NERF the TECH MOONs and say have drones poop techtanium dollups so its not just a NULL SEC passive farm item. At least HI sec Incursions are not a passive way to make you rich


spoken like someone who has never enjoyed a good book or movie while running logi on vanguards

sure its not PI, but it sure as hell isn't work either



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Watched them all now, along with a few seasons of the simpsons.
FadeIN Fr0St
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#80 - 2012-01-10 00:17:06 UTC
This thread is priceless. Went from a good old fashion Incursion cry, strait too the CSM/Mega Alliences are kill the game.

Epic win...Epic

I think that Dev derailed this faster then any forum troll could have ever dempt of.


"All hail Wang ... the little fella in Command. When 'trouble' starts to spread, I'm sure he will rise to the occasion."

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